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« on: January 28, 2014, 23:53:50 »

Now, here's a trivial enquiry if ever there was one.

Where I live, to the south of Melksham I regularly hear trains passing.  Sometimes they beep their horns (?) and sometimes I just hear that nice trundling train-on-the-tracks sound.  Now, when we used to have proper trains, you'd hear a delightful whistle to accompany the myriad other wonderful noises that steam engines issued forth.

So, how is that ghastly two-tone flatulent utterance described, that diesel engines sound?!  There used to be lots of track-side signs one could see from the train reading "Whistle"  (there probably still are?) but somehow I can't imagine the train drivers of today being instructed to sound the train's 'whistle'. 

Talking of flatulence, it would give credence to the line in the song that goes 'The runaway train ran down the track and she BLEW'   Grin  Oh dear, trust me to lower the tone of the site.....
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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2014, 00:10:13 »

Information on 'Noise from the railway' is available on the Network Rail website.  Wink

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These are used at footpath crossings where it is not possible for pedestrians to see approaching trains. When the train passes a board, the driver must sound the horn so that pedestrians know a train is coming.

Because people use our crossings at all times of day and night, drivers have to sound the horn regardless of the time of day.

We're trying to reduce the number of whistle boards but we can^t remove them where there^s no other option as they^re essential to pedestrians^ safety.
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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2014, 14:43:48 »

I think the horn sound is known as 'two tone'
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2014, 15:25:51 »

And this is what the modern lineside whistle board looks like:

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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2014, 22:23:41 »

And this is what the modern lineside whistle board looks like:



Clicked on the little symbol here and nothing happened.......

I'm sure I shall come across a modern whistle board in my anticipated travels, but thanks anyway, BNM.
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2014, 22:31:44 »

The old "sound Whistle" now means "sound Warning"

The reason for the 2 tone is all to do with Doppler shift us humans have difficulty in determining direction and distance of a single tone the 2 tone a high and low note allows us to determine direction and distance, its the same reason fire, police and ambulance use 2 and even multi tone warnings
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2014, 22:45:56 »



The reason for the 2 tone is all to do with Doppler shift us humans have difficulty in determining direction and distance of a single tone the 2 tone a high and low note allows us to determine direction and distance, its the same reason fire, police and ambulance use 2 and even multi tone warnings
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A steam train thundering down the track would make more noise than one of the modern-day little diesels, so I suppose a simple whistle was quite adequate in its day.
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2014, 22:56:40 »

You may also be interested to read an article on this subject on the 'deathbyhealthandsafety' website.  Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2014, 23:04:43 »

Rather disappointed by the photo in that article.

Whether it is photoshopped or not it appears to show someone not only standing in the four foot but also having their boot on a piece of railway equipment.  Huh
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2014, 23:07:44 »

Clicked on the little symbol here and nothing happened.......

Sorry about that. Original link was somewhat temperamental. Have now re-uploaded the image.

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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2014, 23:12:50 »

Rather disappointed by the photo in that article.

Whether it is photoshopped or not it appears to show someone not only standing in the four foot but also having their boot on a piece of railway equipment.  Huh

Hmm.  That particular website is run by a couple of people who are both very experienced / qualified in railway safety.  Their style of posting is fairly provocative - and thus thought-provoking.  I commend them - while taking their input with the necessary 'pinch of salt'.  Lips sealed
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2014, 23:20:24 »

You may also be interested to read an article on this subject on the 'deathbyhealthandsafety' website.  Tongue
I did try the link, thanks, but not sure I was reading the right article!  Didn't seem much like bedtime reading to me so I'm afraid I'll give that a miss!

BNM:  Thanks for piccie of trackside sign; it still says W for whistle!
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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2014, 23:27:27 »

'W' for 'Warning', as Electric train has pointed out.  Wink
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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2014, 17:19:23 »

And this is what the modern lineside whistle board looks like:



BNM.  That is not a 'standard' Whistle sign which has a grey or blue border http://www.railsigns.co.uk/sect15page1/sect15page1.html
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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2014, 00:10:41 »

Sometime in the 2006-2008 period a decision was made that only the low frequency horn would be sounded at 'whistle boards'.

http://www.rssb.co.uk/Pages/Train_Horns.aspx

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