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« on: December 29, 2007, 18:13:22 »

Just not if its GW» (Great Western - used as an abbreviation for the area / lines under the Great Western franchise, as opposed to FGW which includes "First", the company operating them too. For tickets - about)!

On a rather nice and new looking First Transpenine express train from liverpool to manchester!

Have to say it LOOK like a turbo in colour - but is so much better!
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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2007, 19:31:26 »

Just not if its GW» (Great Western - used as an abbreviation for the area / lines under the Great Western franchise, as opposed to FGW which includes "First", the company operating them too. For tickets - about)!

On a rather nice and new looking First Transpenine express train from liverpool to manchester!

Have to say it LOOK like a turbo in colour - but is so much better!
May look like a turbo but its a class 185 which was recently introduced on the Transpenine route. GW inherited a number of the stock that the 185s has replaced in the form of 2 car 158s and 1 three car 158.

Just shows what new rolling stock can do for a TOC (Train Operating Company) if DaFT» (Department for Transport - critical sounding abbreviation I discourage - about) specify the requirement for new rolling stock in the franchise agreement. There is no requirement for FGW (First Great Western) to provide any new rolling stock during the life of the current GW franchise  Sad
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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2007, 20:00:24 »

Just not if its GW» (Great Western - used as an abbreviation for the area / lines under the Great Western franchise, as opposed to FGW which includes "First", the company operating them too. For tickets - about)!

On a rather nice and new looking First Transpenine express train from liverpool to manchester!

Have to say it LOOK like a turbo in colour - but is so much better!
May look like a turbo but its a class 185 which was recently introduced on the Transpenine route. GW inherited a number of the stock that the 185s has replaced in the form of 2 car 158s and 1 three car 158.

Just shows what new rolling stock can do for a TOC (Train Operating Company) if DaFT» (Department for Transport - critical sounding abbreviation I discourage - about) specify the requirement for new rolling stock in the franchise agreement. There is no requirement for FGW (First Great Western) to provide any new rolling stock during the life of the current GW franchise  Sad

Yeah - I knew it was a 185 (I've started looking at the numbers on the front) but I didnt want to sound like a trainspotter (which mymother accused me of being today!) Embarrassed
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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2007, 20:09:16 »

Just not if its GW» (Great Western - used as an abbreviation for the area / lines under the Great Western franchise, as opposed to FGW which includes "First", the company operating them too. For tickets - about)!

On a rather nice and new looking First Transpenine express train from liverpool to manchester!

Have to say it LOOK like a turbo in colour - but is so much better!
May look like a turbo but its a class 185 which was recently introduced on the Transpenine route. GW inherited a number of the stock that the 185s has replaced in the form of 2 car 158s and 1 three car 158.

Just shows what new rolling stock can do for a TOC (Train Operating Company) if DaFT» (Department for Transport - critical sounding abbreviation I discourage - about) specify the requirement for new rolling stock in the franchise agreement. There is no requirement for FGW (First Great Western) to provide any new rolling stock during the life of the current GW franchise  Sad

Yeah - I knew it was a 185 (I've started looking at the numbers on the front) but I didnt want to sound like a trainspotter (which mymother accused me of being today!) Embarrassed
think you already are .....next thing you will be off to Exeter to ride a 142, and you will then never knock a turbo again!!!
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2007, 01:25:18 »

Just not if its GW» (Great Western - used as an abbreviation for the area / lines under the Great Western franchise, as opposed to FGW which includes "First", the company operating them too. For tickets - about)!

On a rather nice and new looking First Transpenine express train from liverpool to manchester!

Have to say it LOOK like a turbo in colour - but is so much better!
May look like a turbo but its a class 185 which was recently introduced on the Transpenine route. GW inherited a number of the stock that the 185s has replaced in the form of 2 car 158s and 1 three car 158.

Just shows what new rolling stock can do for a TOC (Train Operating Company) if DaFT» (Department for Transport - critical sounding abbreviation I discourage - about) specify the requirement for new rolling stock in the franchise agreement. There is no requirement for FGW (First Great Western) to provide any new rolling stock during the life of the current GW franchise  Sad

Yeah - I knew it was a 185 (I've started looking at the numbers on the front) but I didnt want to sound like a trainspotter (which mymother accused me of being today!) Embarrassed
think you already are .....next thing you will be off to Exeter to ride a 142, and you will then never knock a turbo again!!!

Nope!!!!!!!

As I said to dearest mommy

I only know what I need to know to make sure my journey is as stress free as possible

So for FGW I am only really concerned with HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units))/165/166/180  - I know how to recognise the difference and I know the impact on my journey of each and which to avoid and wait for the next train.

I know arriva and I know my route which runs 175's - preferable - 158s - if they must and then today when they pulled 150s from the cardiff routes to run milford haven to manchester!

When I got on a 150 at ludlow and then quizzed the TM (Train Manager, or possibly Ticket Machine, depending on context) as to why 150s were running (wasnt sure where/what they were for other than they werent normal for cardiff - manchester) and got told "unit failures"

So on the way home I went Liverpool - oxford road and picked up the train there rather than going liverpool - crewe - got home an hour  later but did get on at the start so had choice of seats rather than the crewe rugby scrum.

Incidentally it was a 175 so no need to worry but the earlier train which is the one I would have got had I gone to crewe was a 150 (I would have waited 90 minutes at crewe for something decent rather than 35 for the 150) and the next one was a bus!
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2007, 07:04:44 »

Passengers in the Exeter area would give almost anything to ride in a 150! At least they are relatively reliable. You don't know you are born up north! Grin
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2007, 10:26:07 »

If pacers ran virtually empty all the time they would be fine. But they don't.

I miss my peace hiding behind the tall seats on the 150s  Wink
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