TonyK
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« Reply #120 on: February 22, 2016, 21:27:14 » |
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This You tube video gives a good overview of what is to be repaired and what is to be replaced, although probably not what you are truly looking for. |
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« Reply #121 on: February 22, 2016, 23:42:50 » |
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I think it does show what the track layout is, though I think in reality the cross-overs are likely to span all four tracks. The main difference from before is that the tracks on the London side are fast - no platforms, where before all stations had platforms on all tracks. The crossovers are different, being single instead of two parallel tracks, but that's just fashion. And of course there were more stations, and Filton Junction was well north of Filton Abbey Wood (it was north of the main junction).
Incidentally, the map on "Know Your Place - Bristol" that's described as "1949 1:2500" is really a 1918 (1912 survey) edition that didn't have four tracks all the way, hand modified in the planning office - but the drawn-on tracks have rubbed off. The 1946 aerial photo shows that, though it is a bit too fuzzy to show the detail.
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« Reply #122 on: February 23, 2016, 08:28:20 » |
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Don't forget that the layout will be augmented by the maintenance depot. What is being put in will be more than was taken out.
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« Reply #123 on: February 23, 2016, 09:46:16 » |
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Incidentally, the map on "Know Your Place - Bristol" that's described as "1949 1:2500" is really a 1918 (1912 survey) edition that didn't have four tracks all the way, hand modified in the planning office - but the drawn-on tracks have rubbed off. The 1946 aerial photo shows that, though it is a bit too fuzzy to show the detail.
I was wrong about that - the relevant map was (before having planning stuff put onto it) the 1934/5 revision, so all four tracks were on it. An explanation as to why two of them have faded at Ashley Vale, but the original two haven't, must lie elsewhere. |
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« Reply #124 on: February 23, 2016, 10:09:24 » |
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Maybe contact the Know Your Place people about that?
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« Reply #125 on: February 23, 2016, 10:31:49 » |
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Maybe contact the Know Your Place people about that?
I'm not suggesting it's wrongly labelled. It is plainly an office copy with planning data added, so if it was in use up to 1949 the title "1949 1:2500" is hardly incorrect. It is certainly brief, and I can't see any more explanation of what the map is, though I expect it is somewhere (perhaps in a library index). |
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« Reply #126 on: February 23, 2016, 20:54:49 » |
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Ok.
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« Reply #127 on: February 27, 2016, 17:59:52 » |
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Any idea when Bristol Parkway and Filton Abbeywood will get their extra platforms?
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« Reply #128 on: February 28, 2016, 00:26:23 » |
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simonw, I've been wondering about that for ages. From what I've heard, with all the newly announced delays, nobody actually has a clue. Expectation management in full silence here.
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« Reply #129 on: February 28, 2016, 09:28:20 » |
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I believe "mid-2017" to be an answer. Whether it is a correct answer is another matter, of course. Filton Abbey Wood was not really left future-proofed when the third platform was built:   This bridge will need moving slightly to one side:  Another 2-week possession in the offing? |
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« Reply #130 on: February 28, 2016, 11:24:09 » |
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At BPW» yesterday I was speaking to a member of staff, and was told that surveyors have been on site from a number of civil engineering companies.
Whether this was for the new platform, or more parking I have no idea. I was wondering if any announcements had been made.
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« Reply #131 on: February 28, 2016, 12:18:08 » |
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At BPW» yesterday I was speaking to a member of staff, and was told that surveyors have been on site from a number of civil engineering companies.
Whether this was for the new platform, or more parking I have no idea. I was wondering if any announcements had been made.
Certainly, the announcement of the new platform has been made, and I believe it survived the recent review. It is necessary to allow parallel movements into and out of BPW. I can't see car parking provision being increased so soon after the construction of the multi-storey. A shame I don't pass overhead BPW these days. |
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« Reply #132 on: February 28, 2016, 12:56:15 » |
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I believe "mid-2017" to be an answer. Whether it is a correct answer is another matter, of course. Filton Abbey Wood was not really left future-proofed when the third platform was built:
This bridge will need moving slightly to one side:
Why? The new platform 4 and its track will be to the west of the existing, and while that has to be slewed north and south of the station I don't think it can be moved much within the station. The platform edge has to be at least 2.5 m clear of the footbridge structure, which I suspect is more demanding than the bases in the picture. Of course there is a problem, since this isn't a case of putting back what was stripped out before - both earlier Filton stations were well to the north. Assuming the edge of platform 3 stays where it is, space has to be found for two tracks plus spacing plus offsets (3.4+1.43+2x.73=6.3m) plus 2.5 m means 8.8 m to any kind of structure. That's still well clear of the footbridge, so provided its bases hidden in the bushes aren't too big it should be OK, if it's already railway land (which seems likely). And there's even some pretty (and moving) artist's pictures of it here. |
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« Reply #133 on: February 28, 2016, 13:11:47 » |
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Ahh! you mean moving in that sense of the word. Yes is does seem to be relatively straightforward. Even if actual construction does not go quite as smoothly as in the video. |
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« Reply #134 on: February 28, 2016, 13:17:54 » |
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I believe BPW» car parking is regularly full, and the design of the carpark was to allow extra 'decks' when needed. Also the advent of MetroBus(t) will make BPW a transport hub and will require extra parking.
So not sure what will arrive first, a few hundred extra parking spaces, a new platform and when these will happen.
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