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« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2008, 15:31:36 » |
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Interesting reading - the best bit is the "single carriageway" over Penn Inn - like DUR, how stupid is that? They might as well not bother.
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smokey
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« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2008, 19:30:41 » |
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Now I just wonder hom much compensation the Train Company would want from the motorist's insurers when a broken down, or crashed bus/car holds up train services.
Would as likely as not put car insurance up.
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« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2008, 20:35:52 » |
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What would the road have to do with the railway, it currently runs parrallel to the line, no LCs▸ on the line!
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Lee
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« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2008, 21:21:03 » |
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Now I just wonder hom much compensation the Train Company would want from the motorist's insurers when a broken down, or crashed bus/car holds up train services.
Would as likely as not put car insurance up.
What would the road have to do with the railway, it currently runs parrallel to the line, no LCs▸ on the line!
smokey may (perhaps he can clarify) be referring to the HoldFast proposal : One alternative that was put forward involved using the Holdfast method to allow cars and trains to share the railway corridor linking Torbay to Newton Abbot. Here are some quotes from a Times article on this : ^Unlike ordinary roads, there is no problem with potholes because a damaged panel can easily be replaced. Rather than have an endless debate about whether we should be investing in road or rail, we can allow trains and cars to use the same corridor.^
"Holdfast, which has installed its rubber panels at hundreds of level crossings, has held discussions with tram companies about converting lines for dual use. ^There are many lines which would be too lightly used to justify restoring rail services but which would be commercially viable if cars could use them too,^ he added.
The cost of reopening a line could be covered by charging drivers a toll to use it.
Holdfast has calculated that the cost of installing rubber panels on the seven-mile line between Newton Abbot and Torquay in Devon could be recouped within four years by charging cars ^1 each.
Holdfast has drawn up a list of dozens of potential lines and believes the strongest candidates for rubber highways are in Dagenham, East London, Croydon, Cheltenham and several routes around Bristol.
Iain Coucher, deputy chief executive of Network Rail, which owns Britain^s 20,000 miles of track, said: ^It is an interesting idea and we are looking at it.^ " |
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« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2008, 16:36:54 » |
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Ok thanks for clearing that up. Funny thing is, the Torbay rly line is well used and shouldn't take second place behind cars|!
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« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2008, 17:57:36 » |
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Ok thanks for clearing that up. Funny thing is, the Torbay rly line is well used and shouldn't take second place behind cars|!
Quite right! This must not happen! Keep road and rail separate. As BR▸ said, "there's the wrong way and the railway!" Mix these together (road and rail) and we will end up with no way! |
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smokey
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« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2008, 11:46:32 » |
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[/quote] smokey may (perhaps he can clarify) be referring to the HoldFast proposal : I was referring to the CRAZY HoldFast proposal  |
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« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2008, 11:02:43 » |
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One alternative that was put forward involved using the Holdfast method to allow cars and trains to share the railway corridor linking Torbay to Newton Abbot. Here are some quotes from a Times article on this :
Given the heavy road usage of the A380 here such an idea is to say the least weird,problems on one would inevitably effect the other.Given the Dfts record on transport infrastructure in Devon/Cornwall a separate road scheme will almost certainly given the go ahead,it always does in these parts while the railways have to continue to make do with underfunded and outdated infrastructure west of Exeter. |
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« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2008, 14:11:50 » |
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One alternative that was put forward involved using the Holdfast method to allow cars and trains to share the railway corridor linking Torbay to Newton Abbot. Here are some quotes from a Times article on this :
Given the heavy road usage of the A380 here such an idea is to say the least weird,problems on one would inevitably effect the other.Given the Dfts record on transport infrastructure in Devon/Cornwall a separate road scheme will almost certainly given the go ahead,it always does in these parts while the railways have to continue to make do with underfunded and outdated infrastructure west of Exeter. Can't expect much more from the Road Lobby led DfT» (Department for Tarmac). |
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Lee
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« Reply #24 on: February 29, 2008, 22:15:59 » |
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« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2008, 22:02:30 » |
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South Devon has been given ministerial backing for its Kingskerswell bypass."It has dragged on for quite long enough," declared South West Minister Ben Bradshaw. And during his first official visit to Torbay the minister called on the anti-lobby to 'see the bigger picture' and see the toll the lack of a bypass has taken on the local economy. http://www.thisisdevon.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=141507&command=displayContent&sourceNode=257390&home=yes&more_nodeId1=257393&contentPK=20934994 |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2008, 22:16:33 » |
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Hang on, I hope this "bypass" is not the idea of running cars on the railway!!
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« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2008, 22:50:38 » |
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No, its not. The current road is a joke. Sitting in traffic all the way in the middle of a weekday  |
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Lee
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« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2008, 23:02:27 » |
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I find it fascinating just how pro-road some of the minister's comments were : The minister said he was 'very hopeful' that the road would get the go-ahead: "Not least because the region had the sense to put it very high on its priority list, because the Government is investing record amounts over the next few years in road building, and the South West has got the biggest increase in allocation,"
"I would appeal to them to see the bigger picture. The absence of this road has caused real historic problems for Torbay and the wider Devon economy. Modern road building is done in a very environmentally sensitive way and this has dragged on for quite long enough." Doesnt exactly inspire confidence regarding the government's priorities/commitment to public transport, does it? |
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