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« on: August 27, 2013, 09:56:32 »

A bit of history on Bristol Buses....racism ruled 50 years ago....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23795655
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« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2013, 10:34:01 »

A bit of history on Bristol Buses....racism ruled 50 years ago....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23795655

Indeed it did - the unions were right behind the bosses!

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A Unite official publicly apologised today 50 years after the union's predecessor sided with bosses in the Bristol "colour bar" row over a bus company's policy not to employ black staff.

Source: Morning Star

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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2013, 10:45:51 »

took 'em 50 years to apologise, I note.....
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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2013, 11:19:15 »

Hmm... actually I think the normally-reliable Morning Star is being a bit disingenuous; I have a sneaking feeling that the unions actually led here..!

Edit: wikipedia agrees:

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Local union officials denied that there was any colour bar but in 1955 the Passenger Group of the TGWU had passed a resolution that coloured workers should not be employed as bus crews. Andrew Hake, curator of the Bristol Industrial Mission, recalled that "The TGWU in the city had said that if one black man steps on the platform as a conductor, every wheel will stop".

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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2013, 11:22:23 »

About sorting the racism or apologising? Certainly not the former....
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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2013, 11:24:19 »

In being racist! See my edit above.
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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2013, 11:26:00 »

In being racist! See my edit above.

Edit: N.B. when I say 'led', I don't mean to attach any postive connotation to the word.
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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2013, 11:26:50 »

Indeed, the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) article concurs too
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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2013, 21:31:15 »

And as the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) article mentions, many Bristol streets and landmarks are named after slave trader, Edward Colston.

Yes, he was very philanthropic and altruistic, but that doesn't hide the fact he made that money from slavery.

I, for one, was glad that the new shopping centre wasn't named after him.
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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2013, 22:28:05 »

And as the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) article mentions, many Bristol streets and landmarks are named after slave trader, Edward Colston.

Yes, he was very philanthropic and altruistic, but that doesn't hide the fact he made that money from slavery.

I, for one, was glad that the new shopping centre wasn't named after him.

Was there a suggestion that it might have been? Wasn't the original plan to call it the Merchants Quarter (with no apostroscope)?

I agree that we should be careful not to appear to celebrate people who don't match up to today's impeccable standards of moral rectitude in public life, though probably the best way to achieve this is to follow the motor industry and just give everything a made-up name or a number.
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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2013, 22:41:35 »

Good call.

So let's have Alystro Hall in the centre and The Zan'zuri Girl's School on Cheltenham Road.
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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2014, 12:23:09 »

From the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page):

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Bristol bus boycott marked with commemorative plaque

A newspaper cutting shows students marching in Bristol in protest against a "colour bar" on the buses

A campaign which was key to gaining equality for Bristol's black and ethnic minorities is to be remembered with a new plaque.

The 1963 Bristol Bus Boycott led the Bristol Omnibus Company to change its racist policies that stopped black people from working on the buses.

Original campaigners Dr Paul Stephenson OBE, Guy Bailey OBE and Roy Hackett will attend the unveiling ceremony.

In 1965, the Race Relations Act banned all discrimination in the workplace.

The boycott came about after Guy Bailey, a Jamaican new to the UK (United Kingdom), was openly refused a job by a manager at the bus company because "we don't employ black people".

A group, led by Dr Stephenson, and inspired by the equality campaigns of Martin Luther King in North America's south and the actions of Rosa Parks, who refused to give up her seat to a white passenger on a Montgomery bus, urged a boycott of the service until the policy of discrimination was ended.

Starting in April 1963, pickets of bus depots and routes were part of the strategy, with blockades and sit-down protests organised on routes throughout the city centre.

On 28 August 1963, the same day that Martin Luther King delivered his momentous 'I have a dream' speech in Washington DC (Direct Current), the Bristol Omnibus Company declared a change in policy that there would now be "complete integration" on the buses "without regard to race, colour or creed".

By September, the company had its first non-white bus conductor.

Dr Stephenson said the boycott has become "a watershed" on how the city comes to terms with its ethnic minority make-up.

"As Martin Luther King once said: 'We face chaos or community; the choice is ours'," said Dr Stephenson.

Bristol's mayor, George Ferguson, who will also be attending the ceremony in the bus station said the campaigners are "etched into Bristol's history and should be celebrated as heroes of our time".
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« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2021, 12:38:44 »

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First Bus may stop serving a Hartcliffe route after a wave of attacks.

A spokesman for the operator said today (March 12): "This week alone, the company has had five windows damaged by rocks being thrown from outside the vehicles which resulted in the Service 76 being pulled out of Hareclive Road in Hartcliffe at short notice.

"The driver of one of the vehicles was also subject to racial abuse."

First is working with police to identify culprits but says if the attacks continue it "may have no choice but to withdraw the service from Hareclive Road until the situation is back under control".

When I post news on the forum, I do not usually post my views initially but rather leave it to members to come in first.  I am going to make an exception in this case - in my view throwing rocks at buses and racially abusing staff is unacceptable, and those responsible should be sought out by the authorities and brought to justice.

I will read any "likes" on this post as an endorsement of my view and NOT in support of the perpetrators
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« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2021, 14:40:13 »

Unfortunately this sort of thing is nothing new. Have a read of some of the Flickr captions posted by Stephen Dowle aka Fray Bentos describing his time on Bristol's buses.

Fred Wedlock also did a comedy song back in the 60s which contained the lines:

"If you want a bus to Southmead, I'm afraid you'll have to wait
For the crew on the seven thirty are riding shotgun on the ten past eight"

One of those gags that contained a grain of truth, I'm afraid
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« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2021, 15:45:03 »

This sort of criminal behaviour seems to be on the increase. In general, not just against public transport.

The answer in my view is not to withdraw services (except perhaps in a very short term emergency) but more police patrols to deter or catch the criminals, and stiffer sentances by the courts.

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