One less HST stopping at Maidenhead from August 10th - pm?

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[ChrisB]

Coz it's a fast hi-speed service, not a stopping service?

[James]

Coz it's a fast hi-speed service, not a stopping service?

Well ye thats true, however i thought HS2^▸ (The next High Speed line(s)) was going to have four tracks instead of two, enabling some trains to stop in the chilterns if stations are to be built in that area. Although i am not sure about that, maybe someone can confirm this?

Moving onto other matters, according to opentrain times there are further changes to the evening peak service from December this year (although its obviously not confirmed yet)

It looks as if the 1718 will skip stop Twyford and run non stop between Maidenhead and Reading
Also the 1836 is retimed to 1842 and runs on the reliefs arriving later at Maidenhead at 1915. Not sure Maidenhead commuters will like that...
Apart from that i didnt see any other changes, however if people know more about this, then i would like to know please, Cheers

[ChrisB]

There won't be *any* timetables worth looking at for December anywhere yet, they'll only be two or three alliterations through the TT with Network Rail by now - so I'm not sure what data opentrain times is picking up.

And HS^▸ (High Speed (short for HSS^▸ (High Speed Services) High Speed Services))" s two lines. Not sure where you got 4 lines from.

[James]

Ok chris, thank you

[trainer]

There won't be *any* timetables worth looking at for December anywhere yet, they'll only be two or three alliterations through the TT with Network Rail by now

Or perhaps 'iterations'?  Don't think you meant 'alliteration' anyway.  'Versions' would do.  Sorry to be a pedant.  

[Lee]

There won't be *any* timetables worth looking at for December anywhere yet, they'll only be two or three alliterations through the TT with Network Rail by now - so I'm not sure what data opentrain times is picking up.

Open Train Times explanation of what data they use (mainly direct from Network Rail real-time feeds) can be found here.

The December timetables that you can access on Open Train Times are of course not set in stone, but are already at the stage where substantial changes are less and less likely.

For example, I have been keeping a close eye on the TransWilts ones since they were first posted on this forum, and there has been the odd change here and there, but by no more than a few minutes, with the timetable structure itself remaining as proposed.

[ChrisB]

fair comment - I meant iterations!

[ChrisB]

The December timetables that you can access on Open Train Times are of course not set in stone, but are already at the stage where substantial changes are less and less likely.

Disagree, sorry - as an example - Chiltern's 1615 & 1715 which are currently fast to Leamington Spa, and Chiltern have verbally confirmed that there'll be no change this Dec, are BOTH shown as stopping at Banbury currently. Pah!

[IndustryInsider]

The 16:15 and 17:15 ex Marylebone are both showing as fast to Leamington Spa on my screen having chosen Tuesday 17th December as a random date?

[ChrisB]

Hmm - I chose Monday 16th, and asked for trains from MYB^▸ (London (Marylebone)) calling at BAN, and they both appeared....

[IndustryInsider]

That is a bit strange, given that when you click on the more information panel it doesn't list Banbury as a calling point!  I think it lists anywhere that is en-route and a WTT^▸ (Working Time-Table) timing point as a 'calling point' which is misleading.  It does the same thing for High Wycombe on those same trains - and we know they're not calling there.

So, in this case it's the 'passing time' rather than a station stop, but the raw data it's feeding from is correct.

[ChrisB]

But of little use if it shows every passing point....

[NickB]

The problem with removing HST^▸ (High Speed Train) services to maidenhead is perfectly exemplified by tonight's car crash at Paddington. I write to you from the 19.18 - a 3 car service that contains all of the passengers from the 18.36, the 19.06, the 19.18 and no doubt the 19.48 too.  It is literally hell on earth.
People live in maidenhead, and many chose to live there because it has HST services that are fast, but also have space and reasonable amenity. If you compress services, either deliberately or, as tonight, via disruption then the 'system' cannot cope.

[johoare]

Oh dear.. Hope you got home ok in the end NickB? It seems that only people commuting from Maidenhead really know how busy it is.. I moved here years ago due to the fast service.. A lot of other people have had the same idea.. I'm just glad I'm not working this week...