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« Reply #196 on: February 01, 2022, 09:39:34 » |
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Interesting idea. Restaurants and shops along the route will be invited to prepare local specialities which will be sold during station stops and eaten on board.
What a wonderful idea: French provincial meals on wheels; traiteurs on trains. Especially this bit. A totally different attitude to travel. |
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« Reply #197 on: February 01, 2022, 10:40:39 » |
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Interesting idea. Restaurants and shops along the route will be invited to prepare local specialities which will be sold during station stops and eaten on board.
What a wonderful idea: French provincial meals on wheels; traiteurs on trains. Especially this bit. A totally different attitude to travel. On whose part? The French - all those millions who charge off down the autoroutes on their holidays,and demonstrate their love of slow travel by sitting in enormous traffic jams? |
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« Reply #198 on: February 01, 2022, 13:24:57 » |
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Not the speed. The idea of station stops designed to allow disembarkation, purchase and reboarding. (Normal in some parts of the world but not one I've encountered on European rail.)
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« Reply #199 on: February 01, 2022, 15:07:57 » |
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Not the speed. The idea of station stops designed to allow disembarkation, purchase and reboarding. (Normal in some parts of the world but not one I've encountered on European rail.)
It used to be common practise at Swindon, and in more recent times at Abergynolwyn. |
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« Reply #200 on: February 01, 2022, 15:24:31 » |
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Sounds an interesting idea, my main misgiving is the large number of stops proposed, 29 on one route !
I can see the merit of stops in order to enjoy attractions en-route, purchase food and drink, and presumably to travel to/from intermediate stations rather than along the whole line.
29 stops sounds very tedious though. Perhaps fewer might be better ? Maybe run a service with the same origin and destination every day, but varying the intermediate stops on different days.
If we are serious about the climate change emergency, we need to make more use of railways, both fast long distance services as an alternative to air, AND slower or local services as an alternative to leisure trips by car.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #201 on: February 01, 2022, 18:41:36 » |
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That article is a bit misleading, going further than anything Railcoop say. They are not pushing slowness at all, these just aren't TGVs▸ - more or less resurrected Corails. And that map of routes is of all the ones they have made access applications for, with no intention of running them all. They want to find out which could be made available, after ART do their technical and revenue abstraction tests. Even then, they are asking for other "friendly" operators to take them on.
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« Reply #203 on: March 13, 2022, 05:52:39 » |
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"Good news for regular users of Euston Station in London! One day they will die. Then they won't have to go to Euston Station ever again." - David Mitchell
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« Reply #204 on: March 13, 2022, 19:16:19 » |
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The Tim Traveller, a Youtuber I follow has also made a video about this railway. Recorded in 2020, more than 6 years after the BBC» story, I think it's more informative than the BBC one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IovEyB2EYoMIncidentally, all his other videos are worth a watch too. |
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« Reply #205 on: March 13, 2022, 20:45:17 » |
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If you ask yourself what was similar or different about London in this respect, the obvious point is the central planning. But there were a lot of link lines around London, built jointly, and while some ran passenger trains that's not why they were built. And once the Underground, with its better connectedness, had been built most of those trains withered away. Lines directly linking terminals (mainly London Bridge/Cannon Street/Charing Cross) were a bit different, but even there the linking services largely stopped.
The video does at least pick up on that aspect, but doesn't spot the importance of goods stations. In London this was a major use of these linking lines, as companies had goods stations "out of area" - for example the GWR▸ had one at South Lambeth. I'm not sure how many there were inside Paris, but I came across one last time I was there (2019). It resisted photography, but can be visited by Street View. This was the gare des Gobelins, now called Olympiades, and its access ramp from the southern Petite Ceinture is still there (but neither has track). It was below ground level, and has been slabbed over to build blocks of homes and offices. More of that is now planned, but with the underground area - now various businesses' depots - directed more to servicing shops and other residents' facilities.
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« Reply #206 on: March 25, 2022, 19:34:36 » |
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There are official suggestions that one of a number of people on top of the train was electrocuted, and that incident started the fire. From All News Press: A freight wagon parked at Valenciennes station accidentally caught fire on Friday, according to the SNCF▸ . “Factually, there is a death, a body on the way,” said the head of the Departmental Directorate of Public Security in the North, Thierry Courtecuisse. The firefighters then confirmed this death, also reporting “three minor injuries, visibly migrants”, found on the platform near the burnt wagon.
Two firefighters were also slightly injured. Firefighters set up a tent in front of a medical vehicle outside the station, with two empty stretchers. By early evening, the fire was under control, according to firefighters. “Then the investigations will begin, and the search in the rubble, where it is possible that there are victims,” they added.
The fire broke out at 4.30 p.m., for a reason still unknown, in a wagon containing tires, which caused an impressive column of smoke, with, according to the firefighters, a “high risk of spreading to two refrigerated wagons and a TER”. The SNCF specified that the station had been evacuated and the traffic interrupted. |
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« Reply #207 on: March 25, 2022, 20:13:19 » |
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There is now a more detailed news report in Le Figaro Live, describing the four people involved as Eritrean migrants, possibly minors. One who was trying to climb on the wagon, which had a soft covering, induced the flashover that resulted in his death. The others are described as shocked more than physically injured. The train was about to depart towards Calais. There is a short video clip of the fire here |
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« Reply #208 on: April 01, 2022, 12:09:41 » |
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« Reply #209 on: April 01, 2022, 12:32:05 » |
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Do the French celebrate all fools day?
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