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Author Topic: East - West Rail update (Oxford to Bedford) - ongoing discussion  (Read 180776 times)
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« Reply #60 on: October 08, 2011, 19:07:55 »

I think it is a similar reason to when we discussed HS2 (The next High Speed line(s)) earlier.  East West rail is not really part of the current network, and is to rely on third party funding, so it isn't right for Network Rail (NR» (Network Rail - home page)) to discuss it being built yet...

PS - found another reference in the section of the enhancements list about Oxford corridor capacity improvements:

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a double junction at Oxford North to facilitate increased capacity of connection to the
Bicester line (subject to the progression of East West railway).

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« Reply #61 on: November 03, 2011, 17:29:55 »

The latest Rail magazine has a short piece about E/W Rail not getting much of a mention in the IIP, and the consortium has confirmed this is as expected, basically because it isn't a NR» (Network Rail - home page) or TOC (Train Operating Company) sponsored project. The implication is that it ought to be fed into the HLOS (High Level Output Specification) by DfT» (Department for Transport - about).

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« Reply #62 on: November 03, 2011, 17:31:55 »

Yes, and a full press release stating as such is here:

http://eastwestrail.org.uk/press-release/
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« Reply #63 on: November 03, 2011, 18:02:14 »

Which will be where RAil got their article from.
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« Reply #64 on: November 15, 2011, 16:03:56 »

Just found this on the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) democracy live page:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/hi/house_of_commons/newsid_9639000/9639614.stm

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« Reply #65 on: November 16, 2011, 09:28:59 »

Interesting points John R unfortunately they aren't new. Shades of the 1955 Modernisation plan with the flyover and the proposed yard at Swanbourne with the line being used as round London freight route.

However, your points are still valid. It seems to me  that it is almost essential that once Reading Oxford is electrified Reading Basingstoke and Oxford Bletchley should be as well for the reasons given. Both would be relatively easy and cheap schemes to add on as part of a rolling programme once the GWML (Great Western Main Line) elctrification is complete.

However we are up against the "bean counters" in the Treasury who just love to say NO to any sensible investment.
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« Reply #66 on: November 16, 2011, 10:48:12 »


Thanks for the link.  An interesting, and 99% positive, discussion on the project.  Good to hear Teresa Villiers sound so positive too.  A 30-minute debate like that is really more about demonstrating to the wider world how much cross-party support such a project has, rather than actual serious debate, but the fact it has got that far is very positive.

Interesting to hear the minister talking of Chiltern's 'Evergreen 3' as definitely going ahead with no mention of it still being subject to agreement from her new boss!
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« Reply #67 on: November 16, 2011, 11:00:04 »

Yes, I thought that!
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« Reply #68 on: November 28, 2011, 10:57:46 »

In the FT (behind a subscription wall)....

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Signal green for ^Varsity^ line reopening
By Mark Odell and George Parker
Ministers are expected to give the go-ahead to re-open part of the Oxford to Cambridge railway line, closed in the wake of the Beeching cuts in the 1960s, as part of a key infrastructure announcement.
 
Under the ^250m scheme, passenger services between Oxford and Bedford ^ withdrawn by British Rail in 1967 ^ will resume by 2017. The main part of the project involves re-laying and upgrading mothballed track between Bicester and Bletchley that was last used for freight services in the mid-1990s.
The scheme is expected to be one of the surprises among 40 key infrastructure projects the government is due to announce on Tuesday (Chancellor's "Autumn Statement"), which will include schemes already under way or well advanced in the planning process.
Supporters of the project, which include the local county and borough councils, have campaigned since the mid-1990s to get the route re-opened, arguing that it will bring considerable economic benefits by linking the fast-growing city of Milton Keynes to academic and research centres in Oxford.
Under their calculations, the route will generate more than ^6 in economic benefit for every ^1 invested, a key government measure of the value of big infrastructure projects. The benefit figure would rise to ^11 if the scheme were 15 per cent funded by the private sector, they argue.

The government is expected to instruct Network Rail, the owner of the UK (United Kingdom) rail network, to include the scheme in the list of projects it has put forward for the next funding period between 2014 and 2019 (IIP & CP5 (Control Period 5 - the five year period between 2014 and 2019)).
The re-opened line would allow passengers to bypass London by linking the west of England with the Midlands and the north. It would connect with Great Western services at Didcot and Reading and with West Coast services at Milton Keynes and Midland mainline services at Bedford.
The full scheme, known as East West Rail, ultimately envisages fully re-opening the old route between Oxford and Cambridge, dubbed the Varsity or Brain Line, which closed in the aftermath of the restructuring of Britain^s railways by Dr Richard Beeching in the 1960s.
But since part of the old route between Bedford and Cambridge has been built on, ministers have baulked at the idea of trying to build a new line.
Re-opening the stretch between Oxford and Bedford also offers a political dividend for the Tories, as it runs through the constituencies of a number of Conservative MPs (Member of Parliament).
Separately, George Osborne is set to announce a cap on regulated rail fares in his autumn statement on Tuesday.
Season tickets and peak travel fares were due to rise by 8.2 per cent on average after the coalition government earlier this year increased the formula to 3 per cent above the retail price index rate of inflation.
The chancellor is now expected to announce the average fare will rise by 6.2 per cent, and that the cap will also apply to Tube and bus fares in London.
Public transport lobby groups had warned of a backlash from commuters in the south-east ^ where the constituencies of the four transport ministers are located ^ if the government left rail fare rises unchanged while appeasing the motoring lobby by acting on fuel duty.
The government is expected either to freeze or to delay the imminent full 3p increase in fuel duty.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5ee150f0-1919-11e1-92d8-00144feabdc0.html

Transport Briefing picked the leaks up too....

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Transpennine electrification, Kingkerswell bypass, Tyne & Wear Metro and East West Rail all mentioned in ^5bn infrastructure plan leaks
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« Reply #69 on: November 28, 2011, 11:38:48 »

Thanks for the link.  Fingers crossed... 
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« Reply #70 on: November 28, 2011, 12:58:35 »

To add to the growing impetus regarding this route, East West Rail have published a prospectus for the western section on their website:

http://eastwestrail.org.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/EWR-prospectus-web-2.pdf
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« Reply #71 on: November 28, 2011, 17:06:29 »

So, what about the bats...  Grin
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« Reply #72 on: November 28, 2011, 18:47:24 »

So, what about the bats...  Grin
They will, hopefully, stay roosted in the Westminster belfry  Grin

Good progress in the business case is also being made for the MML» (Midland Main Line. - about) electrification Bedford to Sheffield
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« Reply #73 on: November 29, 2011, 13:13:43 »

Thumbs up from the Chancellor today then.  Marvellous!
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« Reply #74 on: November 29, 2011, 13:47:48 »

The Chancellor announced in his Autumn Statement today that the Government is committed to developing the East West Rail link between Oxford, Bicester, Aylesbury, Milton Keynes and Bedford, for which the East West Consortium has demonstrated a strong case.

Network Rail has been asked to develop the scheme further with the Consortium and other stakeholders. Subject to a satisfactory local contribution to the cost of the project (whatever that is) and a satisfactory business case, the Government will announce how it will take forward this scheme in summer 2012.

Provided the conditions have been met, Network Rail will then work with the East West Rail Consortium, to deliver the scheme set out by the Consortium in its November 2011 Prospectus. The Government will provide funding to Network Rail, subject to the Consortium meeting a share of the costs, as set out in the Prospectus."
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