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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2013, 20:53:54 » |
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yes, it's excellent, and good to see a TOC▸ showing interest in the tradition. Though a minor detail, the up Bristolian is a little earlier than 0946 off Weston.
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JayMac
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2013, 21:03:28 » |
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I wonder if that headboard, affixed to the HST▸ at Old Oak, on the cover of the leaflet, is the real deal.
Or is it photoshopped?
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"A clear conscience laughs at a false accusation."
"Treat everyone the same until you find out they're an idiot."
"Moral indignation is a technique used to endow the idiot with dignity."
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Chris from Nailsea
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2013, 21:33:02 » |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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Louis94
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« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2013, 21:49:40 » |
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The headboards were lent to First Great Western for free from a preserved railway.
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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2013, 23:22:05 » |
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Would be nice to see headboards return to running trains, although I'm sure it won't happen.
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Kingfisherdart
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2013, 12:36:23 » |
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Chris, As the man responsible, I can confirm that 43134, 43144 and 43164 all carried 'The Mayflower' and 'The Red Dragon' headboards for the 'Named Trains' photoshoot - at both Paddington and Old Oak Common. The headboards were carried to coincide with the reintroduction of individual logos on the window labels, for each named train. No Photoshop trickery here! All the best, Luke |
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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2013, 14:36:33 » |
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Should not named trains have Pullman restaurants ?
AFAIR most of the named trains used to have a full restaurant before the Hatfield accident.
If FGW▸ are trying to impress in the hope of retaining the present franchise or winning another, then more than 2 restaurants a day would be a good start.
Not that many years ago there were 7 return restuarants a day to/from the West, and a couple to/from Wales.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2013, 15:01:20 » |
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Well the Up Cornishman and the Down Armada and Golden Hind do - so that is a start!
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paul7575
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« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2013, 16:20:50 » |
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If FGW▸ are trying to impress in the hope of retaining the present franchise or winning another, then more than 2 restaurants a day would be a good start...
GW▸ ITT▸ only had this: 4.7.4.2 Catering
Bidders should assess the appropriate level of on-board services including catering provision to be provided on Great Western services and demonstrate how they will deliver their proposal. They should include any proposed changes to on board staffing arrangements, responsibilities and numbers in this plan. Bidders should propose whether there is core minimum level of service which they would commit to provide. I wouldn't expect DfT» to give the catering offer much weight at all in the decision making process, IIRC▸ it was not a factor in recent competitions for WCML▸ or ECML▸ either... Paul |
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Chris from Nailsea
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« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2013, 16:47:31 » |
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Chris,
As the man responsible, I can confirm that 43134, 43144 and 43164 all carried 'The Mayflower' and 'The Red Dragon' headboards for the 'Named Trains' photoshoot - at both Paddington and Old Oak Common.
The headboards were carried to coincide with the reintroduction of individual logos on the window labels, for each named train.
No Photoshop trickery here!
All the best,
Luke
In which case, Luke, please accept my humble apologies: no offence intended!  Chris. |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2013, 18:50:12 » |
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Excellent, Luke, a good idea well researched and well presented. Please can you now turn your skills to doing a decent guide to access to (and within) Reading station over Easter.
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Kingfisherdart
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« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2013, 10:42:21 » |
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In which case, Luke, please accept my humble apologies: no offence intended! Chris. Non taken whatsoever! Glad that folks are taking an interest :-) |
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Kingfisherdart
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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2013, 10:45:30 » |
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Excellent, Luke, a good idea well researched and well presented. Please can you now turn your skills to doing a decent guide to access to (and within) Reading station over Easter.
Gordon, I've taken this suggestion on board - I have forwarded it to the folks that are planning the Reading blockade publicity - will keep you posted. All the best, Luke |
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« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2013, 12:49:44 » |
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I am a bit confused about this, most mornings while awaiting the train from Didcot to Oxford I hear the announcement for the 08:29 Didcot to Paddington train (06:48 from Weston Super Mare) and it is always announced as the 'Bristolian', yet in the leaflet the Bristolian is supposed to be the 09:46 from Weston Super Mare.
Having said that I don't really see the point of named trains today. I can understand that in the past it would be used to denote the fastest/ most prestigious service of the day etc. but with today's services I fail to see any difference between the HST▸ used on the Bristolian and any other service.
Is it even the fastest train between London and Bristol today, the 06:48 from Weston Super Mare certainly isn't ?
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