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« Reply #45 on: July 27, 2017, 20:44:53 »

Another news item is that for the last (short Tue-Fri) working week of August, while London Bridge area is closed, Southeastern are running a 2 tph Ramsgate service into P21/22.

To achieve this has take 8 months of prep work on the Linford Street Curve, since Eurostar ceased the line had been effectively mothballed, the electrification equipment had suffered severe damage due to lightning a number of years ago, the DfT» (Department for Transport - about) agreeing to leaving it out of service, a temporary solution is being put in place for this August use and possible use at Christmas. 

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« Reply #46 on: July 27, 2017, 21:24:15 »

Most of the material produced on this upgrade (both material and immaterial) has the logos of NR» (Network Rail - home page), SWT (South West Trains), and "funded by UK (United Kingdom) government". However, NR's animated video showing what they are doing (on SWT's upgrade site) ends with "in partnership with" LCR as well as the other two. Do they still have some form of ownership of the erstwhile international terminal?
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« Reply #47 on: July 27, 2017, 22:25:20 »

Most of the material produced on this upgrade (both material and immaterial) has the logos of NR» (Network Rail - home page), SWT (South West Trains), and "funded by UK (United Kingdom) government". However, NR's animated video showing what they are doing (on SWT's upgrade site) ends with "in partnership with" LCR as well as the other two. Do they still have some form of ownership of the erstwhile international terminal?

Yes LCR do as their web site says For over 20 years, LCR has been managing, developing and disposing of property assets within a railway context, and in particular assets associated with major infrastructure projects. As guardians of public land, we have a role to play in the Government’s drive for homes, jobs and economic growth.
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« Reply #48 on: July 27, 2017, 22:45:39 »

LCR are not really who you think they are. They no longer own the CTRL (Channel Tunnel Rail Link) (HS1 (High Speed line 1 - St Pancras to Channel Tunnel)) and are essential another government owned property company.  For a full explanatiom see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_and_Continental_Railways
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« Reply #49 on: July 27, 2017, 23:37:29 »

I noticed today both AM and PM and yesterday evening that the new automated announcements at Waterloo are suffering with teething problems. A platform announcement will be made and often there is either a long pause before continuing or a long pause whilst reading out a list of some stations served and missing out others.
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« Reply #50 on: July 28, 2017, 13:02:20 »

It is Celia, however she has re-recorded everything and sounds quite different. It is an upgraded system SWT (South West Trains) have been slowly implementing, this is the latest addition however it is the first for a few months. It is at a number of other stations including Eastleigh, Winchester and Southampton Airport Parkway. It does seem to be a bit unreliable mind.
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« Reply #51 on: August 14, 2017, 12:14:14 »

The traditional timelapse video of the 'orange army' of work so far completed can be viewed here:

https://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/timelapse-60-000-man-hours-in-60-seconds#
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« Reply #52 on: August 14, 2017, 16:43:35 »

Off to have my own look on Thursday, at least as much as you can see from a train.
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« Reply #53 on: August 14, 2017, 18:16:30 »

If you want to look at it all from your armchair, this link was posted on the WNXX (Stored Unserviceable, Mainline Locos HQ All Classes) Forum: http://sentry.og2.co.uk/waterloo
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« Reply #54 on: August 15, 2017, 07:52:09 »

Well what they hoped wouldn't happen has happened, an incident outside Waterloo station involving an engineering train and a passenger train having a coming together at a set of points.

SWT (South West Trains) are saying 'avoid Waterloo'.

Judging by the pictures on Paul Clifton's Twitter feed there could be major disruption for quite sometime:
https://twitter.com/PaulCliftonBBC
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« Reply #55 on: August 15, 2017, 08:44:37 »

From the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40933704
Train derails outside London Waterloo station
5 minutes ago
Three people were checked over by London Ambulance Service but no-one was hurt
Passengers have been advised to avoid London Waterloo station all day after a train derailed outside the station.
The train partly left the tracks as it was pulling away from a platform at low speed at 05:40 BST, Network Rail said.
Three people were checked over by London Ambulance Service but nobody was taken to hospital.
Ten platforms are already shut as part of engineering works to enlarge the station's capacity.
The station is usually one of the busiest in the UK (United Kingdom)
Passengers were already affected by ongoing engineering works
Waterloo works: What you wanted to know
Emergency services including police, paramedics and fire crews were called to the scene.
Photos shared by passengers on social media suggest the passenger train had struck an engineering wagon.
Chris Denham, a spokesman for Network Rail, told the BBC the partially derailed train had blocked three of the platforms so only very limited services could run.
"If you don't have to travel to Waterloo today, please don't," he said.
Passengers are being advised to use alternative routes
South West Trains said there would be a very limited service running to and from Waterloo "which is expected for the rest of today".
Many of the trains running have been cancelled or are are stopping or starting short of the station, the rail operator said.
Passengers are being advised to use alternative routes and have been warned other stations in the area will be "very busy" with the possibility of queuing systems being put in place.
The ongoing £800m engineering project at Waterloo will prepare the station for longer trains and provide space for 30% extra passengers during the busiest times of the day.
The station is usually one of the busiest in the UK, with an average of 270,000 journeys made to and from it each day.
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« Reply #56 on: August 15, 2017, 09:55:31 »

There appears to be some diversions of SWT (South West Trains) West of England services into Reading. I've just spotted on Open Train Times a 1Z26 which has gone via Mortimer into P3 at RDG(resolve). It's not showing up on RTT» (Real Time Trains - website) but on LDB there's a 0945 arrival at Reading from Exeter St David's via Salisbury and Basingstoke. The next departure that way showing on LDB is a 1002 from RDG to Salisbury. That's then followed by a 1011 arrival from EXD» (Exeter St Davids - next trains) departing back there at 1047. None of these currently appear on RTT at RDG.
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« Reply #57 on: August 15, 2017, 10:24:30 »

Back to Waterloo.  You can see the position of the engineering train wagons and the derailed train here: http://sentry.og2.co.uk/images/ICE00012/2017-08-15/ICE00012-2017-08-15_102200.jpg


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« Reply #58 on: August 15, 2017, 10:36:13 »

There appears to be some diversions of SWT (South West Trains) West of England services into Reading. I've just spotted on Open Train Times a 1Z26 which has gone via Mortimer into P3 at RDG(resolve). It's not showing up on RTT» (Real Time Trains - website) but on LDB there's a 0945 arrival at Reading from Exeter St David's via Salisbury and Basingstoke. The next departure that way showing on LDB is a 1002 from RDG to Salisbury. That's then followed by a 1011 arrival from EXD» (Exeter St Davids - next trains) departing back there at 1047. None of these currently appear on RTT at RDG.
Yes according to Journeycheck all Exeter to Waterloo services are being diverted to/from Reading. The Benefits of diesel powered trains.
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« Reply #59 on: August 15, 2017, 11:10:27 »

That engineering train is in P10, isn't it? The very one that (with its approach line(s)) was made part of the possession by a late change in July? So, if there was something in the plans or instructions to signallers that wasn't changed then, so a train leaving P11 could use the line to P10 ...
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