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« Reply #435 on: August 28, 2021, 14:27:11 » |
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Also amount of CO2 emitted to produce the concrete would also be huge.
Not necessarily. Factor in the carbon saving from having shorter trips by larger vehicles, and I'm sure an accountant working for a supplier of concrete to bridge builders could make it carbon neutral. The government could award stiffcuts to the best ones, which can be sold to anyone making a bridge out of burning virgin mahogany so they can call it "green". This sort of thing works very well in the electricity supply industry. |
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« Reply #436 on: August 29, 2021, 09:39:07 » |
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Also amount of CO2 emitted to produce the concrete would also be huge.
Not necessarily. Factor in the carbon saving from having shorter trips by larger vehicles, and I'm sure an accountant working for a supplier of concrete to bridge builders could make it carbon neutral. The government could award stiffcuts to the best ones, which can be sold to anyone making a bridge out of burning virgin mahogany so they can call it "green". This sort of thing works very well in the electricity supply industry. The construction industry know that the CO2 involved in making concrete is a problem. It is made by burning limestone and clay in a kiln! The cost of the energy for this was previously the problem, now it is the CO2 as well. Oh and what with the limestone being calcium carbonate the heat releases CO2 from the limestone. They also know the amount of CO2 released by quarrying and transporting the aggregate is also high. The construction industry is working on alternatives but the most practical solution at the moment is to use less of it! As an side this is why the Treasury's idiotic insistence of the contractor making HS2▸ maintenance free is hugely damaging to its green credentials. Embankments suddenly became buried viaducts made of concrete so they did not settle! |
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« Reply #438 on: August 30, 2021, 18:56:30 » |
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Lines closed. Fun. What happened to the alternative via Tavistock? |
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« Reply #439 on: August 30, 2021, 19:10:14 » |
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Lines closed. Fun. What happened to the alternative via Tavistock? |
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« Reply #440 on: August 30, 2021, 19:23:58 » |
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From GWR▸ .com Bridge struck by a lorry
A lorry has collided with a railway bridge, causing damage to the bridge structure. The bridge is being examined by structural engineers and may be closed for some time.
Customer Advice
Train services between Newton Abbot and Plymouth are currently suspended and you are advised not to travel between these stations.
Train services are running between Plymouth and Penzance, between Exmouth, Exeter St Davids and Paignton as well as between Exeter St Davids and London Paddington.
Replacement road transport
Extremely limited replacement road transport has been sourced to run between Exeter St. Davids and Plymouth. Passengers are advised not to travel between these stations.
Night Riviera Sleeper Services
Due to the line between Newton Abbot and Plymouth being closed, our sleeper train services are cancelled.
23:45 London Paddington to Exeter St Davids, Plymouth and Penzance.
21:45 Penzance to Plymouth, Exeter St Davids, and London Paddington
If you are booked onto our Night Riviera sleeper train services, please contact us on 0345 700 0125 or contact GWR customer services and social media online.
Tickets and refunds
If you are affected by this disruption, you are able to claim compensation for delays of 15 minutes or more. Find out more about claiming a refund or rebooking your journey.
Where services can operate, they are expected to be busier than normal. Please check before you travel.
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« Reply #441 on: August 30, 2021, 19:39:53 » |
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It's a steep hill (as well as being very narrow and very low indeed - 10'9" - somewhere only an idiot would take a vehicle like that!). Over the 10 m or so of the road length under the bridge, the road rises by nearly 1 m! So the lorry struck the bridge from the underside and pushed several stones out of the arch in the facing. How much of the bridge's strength is provided by that facing layer of stone, given that most of the bridge and the track isn't directly above it, I wouldn't like to guess |
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« Reply #442 on: August 30, 2021, 19:47:43 » |
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« Reply #443 on: August 30, 2021, 20:51:35 » |
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Very similar situation regarding the road layout to the recent Chippenham incident by the sounds of it. It's a steep hill (as well as being very narrow and very low indeed - 10'9" - somewhere only an idiot would take a vehicle like that!). Over the 10 m or so of the road length under the bridge, the road rises by nearly 1 m! So the lorry struck the bridge from the underside and pushed several stones out of the arch in the facing. How much of the bridge's strength is provided by that facing layer of stone, given that most of the bridge and the track isn't directly above it, I wouldn't like to guess
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« Reply #444 on: August 30, 2021, 23:10:46 » |
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The bridge deck has moved enough to split the concrete sleepers on the up line.
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« Reply #445 on: August 30, 2021, 23:17:47 » |
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Tesco (or its logistics provider) should contribute to the repair bill. Every little helps.
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« Reply #446 on: August 30, 2021, 23:41:09 » |
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Tesco (or its logistics provider) should contribute to the repair bill. Every little helps.
Pay the whole cost in my view, not just a contribution. The cost of this would concentrate their minds a bit on the importance of employing only drivers who can read, understand, and act upon height restriction signs. |
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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LiskeardRich
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« Reply #447 on: August 31, 2021, 06:57:47 » |
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Tesco (or its logistics provider) should contribute to the repair bill. Every little helps.
Pay the whole cost in my view, not just a contribution. The cost of this would concentrate their minds a bit on the importance of employing only drivers who can read, understand, and act upon height restriction signs. I suspect this driver won’t be employed any more by them, but with the huge shortage unless the DVLA▸ revoked his entitlement he’ll find alternative work easy |
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« Reply #448 on: August 31, 2021, 09:12:38 » |
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I'd presume the cost of repair will ultimately be borne by Tesco's fleet insurer.
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LiskeardRich
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« Reply #449 on: August 31, 2021, 15:28:32 » |
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I'd presume the cost of repair will ultimately be borne by Tesco's fleet insurer.
The lorry branded for Tesco, will be owned and operated by a logistics company and insured through them. The only cost to Tesco will be reputations damaged by the lorry branding. Keystone were the Tesco contractor 10 years or so ago not sure if they still are |
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