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Author Topic: Railway bridges struck by road vehicles - merged topic, ongoing discussion  (Read 209414 times)
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« Reply #90 on: January 28, 2016, 16:23:39 »

28 Jan - The sensor on the Mannington side still appears to be pointing skywards as Rob mentioned earlier.

Follow up story in the Advertiser has a picture

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/14237730.Car_smash_put_bridge_lorry_warning_system_out_of_order/
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« Reply #91 on: January 28, 2016, 16:52:43 »

Ah! I stand corrected: it was heading towards Swindon from Mannington. I had earlier assumed it was going the other way.
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« Reply #92 on: January 31, 2016, 20:14:47 »

It is also mandatory for all tall vehicles (I'm not 100% sure above what height this becomes mandatory) to have their overall height clearly marked and visible from the driving position - I would assume any missing labels would result in a roadworthiness test fail.

I don't know about the legal requirements either, offhand - but I do have clear label markings in the cab of my delivery van to remind me that my vehicle's height is 9' 6", and its width is 8' 1".

There is a Brunel railway overbridge in Keynsham (a village between Bristol and Bath) with a signposted headroom clearance of 9' 6" on the approaching downhill side - but I have negotiated it with plenty of clearance, due to the tolerances.  Wink
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"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner."  Discuss.
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« Reply #93 on: February 01, 2016, 08:35:50 »

The law says:

Regulation 10(2) Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986

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No person shall use or cause or permit to be used on a road a vehicle to which this regulation applies if the overall travelling height exceeds 3.66 m unless there is carried in the vehicle in the manner specified in paragraph (3) a notice clearly indicating in feet and inches and in figures not less than 40 mm tall, the overall travelling height.

A classic example of mixed units there, possible intended to cause confusion, but it is 12 feet in old money.

This being Britain, though, there is obviously a list of exemptions from this requirement, including EU» (European Union - about) vehicles of less than 4 metres height on international journeys, any vehicle highly unlikely to meet a low bridge on its travels, agricultural vehicles in certain circumstances, etc, etc.
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« Reply #94 on: February 01, 2016, 09:51:53 »

The law says:

Regulation 10(2) Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986

Curiouserly, Regulation 10 starts off with:
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Indication of overall travelling height

10.^(1) This regulation applies to every motor vehicle which is^

(a)constructed or adapted so as to be capable of hoisting and carrying a skip;
(b)carrying a container;
(c)drawing a trailer or semi-trailer carrying a container;
(d)engineering plant;
(e)carrying engineering equipment; or
(f)drawing a trailer or semi-trailer carrying engineering equipment.

Most of those cases would need to be measured, or at least checked, after each loading - so we are not talking about a permanent marking inside the cab. I also suspect that none of these would arise in the normal line of business of Waitrose (or its competitors).

More relevantly, if the regulation had been in force in 1978, it would not have prevented the bridge strike and consequent derailment at Oyne (as the inspector pointed out). It was in fact already in preparation at the time, and first enacted in the Motor Vehicles (Construction and Use) (Amendment) (No. 5) Regulations 1978, coming into force on the 6th March 1979.
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« Reply #95 on: February 01, 2016, 11:12:51 »


...Keynsham (a village between Bristol and Bath)


With its population of 16,500 souls, Keynsham is rather large to be described as a village. As an aside, I note that Nailsea is home to a mere 15,500 - does that make it a hamlet?  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #96 on: February 01, 2016, 11:29:45 »


With its population of 16,500 souls, Keynsham is rather large to be described as a village. As an aside, I note that Nailsea is home to a mere 15,500 - does that make it a hamlet?  Grin Grin Grin

From the Uxbridge English Dictionary:

"Hamlet: Only half of the upper leg of a pig, cured"
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« Reply #97 on: February 01, 2016, 18:01:57 »

With its population of 16,500 souls, Keynsham is rather large to be described as a village. As an aside, I note that Nailsea is home to a mere 15,500 - does that make it a hamlet?  Grin Grin Grin

Fair comment.  Embarrassed

I was perhaps rather tactless in describing Keynsham as a village: Nailsea and Keynsham are in fact both towns.  Wink
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« Reply #98 on: February 01, 2016, 22:09:54 »

With its population of 16,500 souls, Keynsham is rather large to be described as a village. As an aside, I note that Nailsea is home to a mere 15,500 - does that make it a hamlet?  Grin Grin Grin

Fair comment.  Embarrassed

I was perhaps rather tactless in describing Keynsham as a village: Nailsea and Keynsham are in fact both towns.  Wink

What's the definitive line dividing towns and villages?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/greenpolitics/planning/9974987/Village-converted-to-town-status-to-build-more-homes.html
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« Reply #99 on: February 02, 2016, 14:25:46 »

Hungerford High Street this time....



From the Newbury Weekly News

Never a good time, but this was a particularly bad time for it to happen as, due to problems in the Challow and Chippenham areas, trains were being diverted via the Berks & Hants through Hungerford.
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« Reply #100 on: February 02, 2016, 17:04:24 »

Caught by reg 10(1)(e) here...
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« Reply #101 on: February 02, 2016, 22:38:12 »

These excavators are a known problem as if the arm is not properly secured they can move in transit increasing the height of the load. 
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« Reply #102 on: March 03, 2016, 22:49:57 »

Seems to be a bridge strike up in Berkshire this evening according to journey check

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Due to a road vehicle colliding with a bridge between Newbury and Pewsey all lines are closed.
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« Reply #103 on: March 09, 2016, 22:33:59 »

Taunton station railway bridge claimed a victim this morning, Tone FM got excited and have a large collection of videos and photos on their Facebook and website

http://tonefm.co.uk/news/rush-hour-gridlock-lorry-gets-stuck-taunton-station-bridge/

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Commuters have been at the centre of traffic chaos this morning as a HGV underestimated the height of a Taunton bridge.

A SPARKS lorry wedged itself underneath the Taunton Train Station Bridge on Station Road at around 8:15am today.

These images show the extend of damage to the goods vehicle and the traffic congestion caused by the incident.





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« Reply #104 on: March 09, 2016, 22:35:12 »

Beat me to it! I just spotted a BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) story about the same thing.
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