First class at Padd

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[vacman]

I am surprised no one noticed the big anti abuse exercise at Paddington last week to prevent standard passengers boarding first class!

[6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01]

it was noticed on twitter lol

[BerkshireBugsy]

This week was the first week in about a year I had been in an out of Pad and the extra on-board PA^▸ (Public Address) announcments about the plebs keeping out of first class was noticable - and yes, I travel in standard so include myself as a pleb!

[chineseJohn]

I travelled a weekend in the summer in First, the number people who held standard class tickets sitting in First was quite a few.

[6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01]

I travelled a weekend in the summer in First, the number people who held standard class tickets sitting in First was quite a few.

not sure if that's a joke relating to weekend first upgrades or not 

[Electric train]

FGW^▸ (First Great Western) just don't bother checking the inner TV services, they should have ripped out the first class seats in the 165/6's and fitted extra standard seats when they did the refresh

[thetrout]

FGW^▸ (First Great Western) just don't bother checking the inner TV services, they should have ripped out the first class seats in the 165/6's and fitted extra standard seats when they did the refresh

I don't necessarily agree with removal of First. But I 110% agree that it is seldom checked. I'm not though 100% Convinced this is an entirely exclusive problem for FGW. I have noticed it myself countless times on GA^▸ (Greater Anglia), SN and SE Services. It's particularly common IMO^▸ (in my opinion) on DOO^▸ (Driver-Only Operation (that is, trains which operate without carrying a guard)) Services, of which alot of the services run by those operators are. I have to say though that GA's Revenue Team seem to be much more common sight than perhaps SN or FGW.

My partner and I were once threatened with Penalty Fares on a SN Brighton - London Victoria because we were sat in First Class. The guy didn't know what to do when I placed 2 First Class Tickets on the table with a valid railcard and said: "Not always wise to make assumptions..."

I'm going to board a service at PAD^» (Paddington (London) - next trains) shortly (Sat in the First Class Lounge ) so I'll see if such things are still happening

[thetrout]

Well I boarded the train at PAD^» (Paddington (London) - next trains) and have an interesting journey.

Standard Class was full to bursting and the last minute stragglers boarded in First and walked through the buffet car. Shortly after the train left they came back and piled into the seats in Coach F (Where I was)

[Chris from Nailsea]

... and what action did the train staff take (if any)? 

[swrural]

While we await the answer with barely containable patience, I am totally defeated by TheTrout's acronyms.  What was that link please to that table of those ?  (GA^▸ (Greater Anglia) DOO^▸ (Driver-Only Operation (that is, trains which operate without carrying a guard)) etc)

[Brucey]

While we await the answer with barely containable patience, I am totally defeated by TheTrout's acronyms.  What was that link please to that table of those ?  (GA^▸ (Greater Anglia) DOO^▸ (Driver-Only Operation (that is, trains which operate without carrying a guard)) etc)

At the top of the forum pages, in the blue-ish coloured bar, is a link to Acronyms/Abbreviations

GA = Greater Anglia
DOO = Driver Only Operation

[grahame]

While we await the answer with barely containable patience, I am totally defeated by TheTrout's acronyms.  What was that link please to that table of those ?  (GA^▸ (Greater Anglia) DOO^▸ (Driver-Only Operation (that is, trains which operate without carrying a guard)) etc)

GA needs adding to the page, though ... and I had to think that one through ... thanks for the solution, Brucey!

[bobm]

At the top of the forum pages, in the blue-ish coloured bar, is a link to Acronyms/Abbreviations

It's not always blue-ish, depends what style you choose.  On mine it's chocolate while the rest is cream!   

[EBrown]

While we are discussing this... The correct abbreviations for each Train Operating Company (TOC^▸ (Train Operating Company)), in brackets are some common AKAs^▸ (also known as) (which are technically wrong):

AW - Arriva Trains Wales (AKA: ATW^▸ (Arriva Trains Wales (former TOC)))
CC - C2C
CH - Chiltern Railways (AKA: CR)
XC^▸ (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) - Cross Country
GR - East Coast (AKA: EC)
EM - East Midlands Trains (AKA: EMT^» (East Midlands Trains - about))
ES - Eurostar
FC^‡(resolve) - First Capital Connect (AKA: FCC^▸ (First Capital Connect) & a huge flaming pile of ****)
GW^▸ (Great Western) - First Great Western (AKA: FGW^▸ (First Great Western), FG)
HT^▸ (Hull Trains) - First Hull Trains
TP - First TransPennine Express (AKA: TPE^▸ (Trans Pennine Express))
GX - Gatwick Express
GC^» (Great Central Railway - link to heritage line) - Grand Central
LE- Greater Anglia (AKA: GA^▸ (Greater Anglia))
HC - Heathrow Connect
HX - Heathrow Express
IL - Island Line (Commonly referred to South West Trains (SW))
LM^▸ (London Midland - recent franchise) - London Midland
LO - London Overground (AKA: LOROL^▸ (London Overground Railway Operations Ltd))
LT - London Underground (AKA: LU, TfL^» (Transport for London - about))
ME - Mersey Rail
NT - Northern Rail (AKA: NT)
SR^‡(resolve) - ScotRail
SW - South West Trains (AKA: SWT^▸ (South West Trains))
SE - South Eastern (AKA: SET^▸ (Super Express Train (now IET)), SER)
SX - Stansted Express
VT^▸ (Virgin Trains - former franchises) - Virgin Trains

[eightf48544]

So if LT is London underground what are London Buses?

LT used to be everything so I suppose that's now TfL^» (Transport for London - about)

What about Docklands and Tramlink? The river buses?

What fun abbreviations are!