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Author Topic: Controversial plan to replace historic railway gates in Plumpton  (Read 3971 times)
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« on: September 30, 2012, 15:01:07 »

While this is clearly outside our Great Western geographical area, I do think it's an interesting debate.

From the Sussex Express:

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Katie Wride with old-fashioned crossing gates at Plumpton Station - which villagers don't want to have replaced

There has been an outcry in Plumpton over news that a unique feature of the village^s heritage looks set to be taken away next year.

Network Rail plans to replace the historic railway gates at the level crossing near the station which have been there since the 19th century. The manually operated wooden gates, which close road access as trains pass through, will be replaced by modern ^drop down^ barriers controlled remotely by CCTV (Closed Circuit Tele Vision) from Three Bridges.

Plumpton^s signalman is to give way to flashing lights, sirens and new signage after the road layout has been altered. There is particular local concern about the fate of the Victorian gates because they fall within the curtailment of the signal box and are therefore likewise Listed.

They are believed to be one of only two sets remaining in the entire country.

Locals said that because of the way the gates are designed no children or animals can stray on to the railway line and it was impossible for cars to try to ^jump them^, unlike the new modern barriers.

Villager Katie Wride said she was concerned about an apparent lack of consultation. She said: ^The least Network Rail can do is be up front and open with villagers as to its plans and timescales and consult us. We don^t want what happened in Frinton on Sea when three years of negotiation ended in Network Rail ripping out the gates in the middle of the night.^

She suggested the village gates could be replaced on a like-for-like basis, only automated.

Local historian Richard Wells said: ^Plumpton^s rail gates are unique. It will be a sad day to lose them as it will change the whole character of the village. We must look at every option to save them.^

A Southern Railway spokesman said Network Rail would be replacing 19th century technology with 21st century, which is safer, more reliable and cost-effective. He said there had been lengthy discussions with the parish council about the plans to upgrade the crossing and replace the existing gates and signaller-operated crossing with a new full barrier version monitored in Three Bridges. Many factors had been taken into consideration ^ including the volume of traffic in the area on race days.

^The crossing gates are listed and Network Rail has been in discussion with the local council and residents about what they would like to do with them,^ said the spokesman. ^The same discussions will take place around the future of the signal box.

^Network Rail is committed to making the railway as safe, reliable and efficient as possible and its plans for Plumpton are part of a national move to improve level crossing safety and centralise its signalling operations.

^Network Rail is proposing to carry out the work at Plumpton in 2013.^
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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2012, 07:28:29 »

Provided you can make the road traffic stop to allow the gates to be set to allow passage of a train the old 19th century technology seems like it is probably safer than the 21st century method, even if you ignore the loss of heritage (I'm still sore about the huge loss of character my local station, Fishguard & Goodwick, suffered when it was reopenned).
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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2012, 09:45:12 »

i wouldn't hold out much hope, network rail are hell bent on throwing money at modernisation (not a bad thing in most cases) other than improving headway not sure on any other reasons apart from cutting down on staff
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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2012, 12:06:55 »

Cutting staff costs will always be a good reason for Network Rail to splash the cash. What is a signalman's salary these days? The safety argument is valid, but only really in comparison to half-barrier crossings. These old gates do look nicer from an aesthetic point of view, especially when you add in the lights, cameras, action, bells etc, but is there an option to keep them, operated electronically from a distance? I'm assuming not, or that would have been explored.

Seems the children of Plumpton will just have to get used to not playing on the level crossing in the future.
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