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« Reply #195 on: September 03, 2012, 21:33:10 » |
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Personally I wish we can get on with it and let First start running the new franchise come december.
If Virgins predictions prove correct then shame on the DFT▸ but I would like to think First have done their sums correctly so lets hope Virgins challenge doesnt drag on for too long.
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« Reply #196 on: September 03, 2012, 21:36:42 » |
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Anyone any idea of timescales for any hearing and - if it goes against them - can First lodge another action? Has potential for lengthy delays. Moderator Note: Post edited as it quoted another post that has since been amended. bignosemac  |
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« Reply #197 on: September 03, 2012, 21:48:13 » |
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If Virgin get there way, it could mean all current franchise changes get put on hold if the process is put under scrutiny.
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« Reply #198 on: September 04, 2012, 19:17:46 » |
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Sir Richard Branson and Tim O'Toole CBE will be appearing in front of the Transport Select Committee on Monday 10th September 2012 to give evidence to the Committee on the West Coast Mainline Franchise. The Transport Select Committee will question Sir Richard Branson of Virgin Group and Tim O^Toole OBE of FirstGroup over the Government^s decision to award the West Coast mainline rail franchise to FirstGroup.
Sadly they won't be appearing side-by-side. At 4.05pm Branson will be accompanied by Virgin Rail Group CEO▸ , Tony Collins. At 4:45pm O'Toole will be appearing alongside FirstGroup plc Rail Division MD, Vernon Barker. Grab some popcorn. Should be an interesting watch! |
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« Reply #199 on: September 04, 2012, 19:29:13 » |
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Sir Richard Branson and Tim O'Toole CBE will be appearing in front of the Transport Select Committee on Monday 10th September 2012 to give evidence to the Committee on the West Coast Mainline Franchise. The Transport Select Committee will question Sir Richard Branson of Virgin Group and Tim O^Toole OBE of FirstGroup over the Government^s decision to award the West Coast mainline rail franchise to FirstGroup.
Sadly they won't be appearing side-by-side. At 4.05pm Branson will be accompanied by Virgin Rail Group CEO▸ , Tony Collins. At 4:45pm O'Toole will be appearing alongside FirstGroup plc Rail Division MD, Vernon Barker. Grab some popcorn. Should be an interesting watch! Dam had to be a day I am working anyway I hope I can view it when I get home after work and yes I think it will be interesting to watch. |
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« Reply #200 on: September 04, 2012, 19:39:27 » |
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Select Committees session recordings are archived and the footage is usually available on 'Parliament TV' shortly after the meeting. http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Home.aspx |
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« Reply #202 on: September 07, 2012, 14:30:29 » |
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« Reply #203 on: September 07, 2012, 17:42:01 » |
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I wouldn't go quite that far. Does the North West have an economy? I might go back there if it does. |
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« Reply #204 on: September 08, 2012, 00:39:05 » |
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Of course the North West has an economy. They have diverse financial markets. Meat Pie futures. Whippet hedge funds. Racing Pigeon commodities. Flat Cap derivatives...  |
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« Reply #205 on: September 08, 2012, 09:00:32 » |
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Is there no market in black pudding anymore? |
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« Reply #206 on: September 08, 2012, 12:00:55 » |
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Is there no market in black pudding anymore? Only a BLACK market |
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Of course the North West has an economy. They have diverse financial markets. Meat Pie futures. Whippet hedge funds. Racing Pigeon commodities. Flat Cap derivatives... ...Aye, an' ol' ale an' sandwiches too. Plus the tower that gave Gustaf Eiffel the idea. And some of the prettiest girls to be found outside of supermodel school. |
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« Reply #208 on: September 09, 2012, 11:12:05 » |
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I'm not a fan of First Group,
I sure don't like the Squeeze 'em in, with increasing seats in HST▸ Standard class carriages.
They Run Plymouth & west country HSTs HIGH SPEED TRAINs like buses stopping at every shack:
Is there any express's from Penzance to Paddinton today?
And shortage of stock is NOT an excuse! First had some Loco hauled MKII stock and Class 47 engines they got rid off which could have done a couple of Penzance/Plymouth stopping services a day leaving the HSTs to do what they do best!
And these loco hauld trains could have made much Better use of the Sleeper Locos!
I'm even less of a fan of Virgin,
It's all pomposity and egocentric, but Sir Richard can play his trump card in December!
Remember all the Publicity when Mr Branson invested big time and paid for the BIGGEST train order in UK▸ History!
Well come December he can shut his toys (Pendolinos) away and tell First to find there own trains to play with.
From dealing with Virgin staff, not just on the railway, they seem "brainwashed" into believing nothing is better that "Virgin"
What I don't like at all is this Legal action, OK if Sir Richard has a bee in his bonnet (I'd call it sore loser) will a possible delay be lining Virgin's Pocket?
Virgin's contract to run West Coast EXPIRES in the early hours on December 9th, so I'd like to think that should Legal Action delay First taking over, that from December 9th that EAST COAST would take temporary control of West Coast.
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« Reply #209 on: September 09, 2012, 11:17:52 » |
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Remember all the Publicity when Mr Branson invested big time and paid for the BIGGEST train order in UK▸ History!
Well come December he can shut his toys (Pendolinos) away and tell First to find there own trains to play with. The rolling stock comes with the franchise. So whenever First take over the running, they will gain all of the trains currently used by Virgin. The Pendolinos are owned by Angel Trains, not Virgin. They are merely being leased by Virgin. |
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