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« Reply #390 on: December 14, 2016, 10:05:42 »

Maybe it could go any time soon, so it makes sense to roster a 180 driver if, as I believe, all 180 drivers can drive Turbos, but not vice versa.
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« Reply #391 on: December 14, 2016, 12:54:02 »

Today's Railways Magazine claims that as from Monday the 1718 Padd - Oxford and return will be a Turbo (well, I hope more than 1 Turbo, it needs 5-6 coaches) and not a 180. This would fit in with the other changes.

Yes, being run by a turbo(s) from now on, leaving the 4th 180 as a spare, or of course for its inevitable use as a replacement for the 17:49 as is quite often the case.

It was a Class 180 today (I forgot to check yesterday!), so it looks like there's been a temporary reprieve?

Perhaps it is just down to the WTT (Working Time-Table) diagramming being governed by the timetable change date last Sunday, and the lease by the calendar month, 31st December?   So its easier all round to just amend the published diagrams once, and see it as an 'overlap' rather than a 'reprieve'.   Grin

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« Reply #392 on: December 15, 2016, 18:39:20 »

Class 180 today, Thursday December 15.
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« Reply #393 on: December 15, 2016, 23:05:53 »

One is heading off to pastures new in January still I hear, so probably a temporary measure until the New Year when the Greenford Turbo becomes available.
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« Reply #394 on: December 15, 2016, 23:13:20 »

Yup, confirmed by GWR (Great Western Railway) only this morning.

The other 4 are under discussion with DfT» (Department for Transport - about) as to when they may go though.
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« Reply #395 on: December 16, 2016, 07:42:07 »

1D35 - the 1718 ex-Pad is now timed as a 90 mph Turbo and the on-board catering appears to have been removed.
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« Reply #396 on: December 16, 2016, 07:56:07 »

1D35 - the 1718 ex-Pad is now timed as a 90 mph Turbo and the on-board catering appears to have been removed.

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« Reply #397 on: December 16, 2016, 08:22:47 »

One is heading off to pastures new in January still I hear, so probably a temporary measure until the New Year when the Greenford Turbo becomes available.

Yup, confirmed by GWR (Great Western Railway) only this morning.

The other 4 are under discussion with DfT» (Department for Transport - about) as to when they may go though.

Ah - I hadn't totally twigged that / perhaps missed some significance.  Looking forward to when first units were released from the Thames Valley and re-assigned to the Bristol area.   Looks like other "pastures new" have pipped Bristol to the post.   

Does "under discussion" mean that it's still up in the air when the next class 165/166s are released as to whether they replace 180s as well?   Didn't I read about the first 80x units coming off the UK (United Kingdom) production line?

I have sympathy for  the various people who have to make the hard decisions - but that sympathy is tempered by the knowledge that the same bundle of organisations has failed to deliver electrification on time or enough trains to cope with growing passengers numbers over many years, so are in many ways the ones who have created the problems in the first place!
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« Reply #398 on: December 16, 2016, 12:54:20 »

The other 'pastures new' is Grand Central.

Yes, the first 80X has appeared from the production line 'up north' and are expected to be in service from the summer, leading to I would guess some diagram alterations come September, which coincidentally is the same time electrification as far as Reading (and on to Didcot) should be done freeing up plenty of turbos as well

So whilst not as early as the Bristol area might like I would say turbos will be cascaded west if not September then definitely December
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« Reply #399 on: March 07, 2017, 18:26:34 »

Mrs GTBE reports that the 1718 Padd - Oxford is still running as a Class 180, complete with catering.  Has there been a change of plan on the cascade, or (as Industry Insider suggested) is 100 % availability of just 4 sets being relied upon in the evening?
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« Reply #400 on: March 07, 2017, 22:32:30 »

Yes, Grand Central were persuaded to let GWR (Great Western Railway) keep the fifth unit for a few more months.
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« Reply #401 on: March 08, 2017, 09:43:58 »

“Sets” or “units” ?  It’s my C & W (ie Carriage and Wagon) background: when we had proper trains we had “sets” of coaches, but I accept the Class 180’s are “units”.
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« Reply #402 on: March 08, 2017, 09:54:59 »

Either terminology is fine.  Just like 'rakes' of coaches could also be used for a set of loco hauled coaches.
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« Reply #403 on: March 08, 2017, 12:18:50 »

The 180 I was meant to travel on last Friday (1522 PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains)-GMV (Great Malvern station)), was cancelled in its entirety due to a fault.
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