Devon Metro (railway network around Exeter) - merged posts, ongoing discussion

[whole diary]

[Lee]

From the FGW^▸ (First Great Western) website :

15:50 Exmouth to Paignton due 17:13
This train has run short formed with 2 carriages.This is due to an earlier train fault.

17:19 Paignton to Exmouth due 18:46
This train will run short formed with 2 carriages.This is due to an earlier train fault.

[Conner]

They have spare stock (142's) and crew must be trained by now so why not use them?  A 142 is better than short formed.

[devon_metro]

2v3 is nothing major, i've been on that train 1v3.

Choas!

[Conner]

2v3 is nothing major, i've been on that train 1v3.

Choas!

That one may be okay but what happens if the school trains are one carriage.

[Jim]

2v3 is nothing major, i've been on that train 1v3.

Choas!

I thought all Devon MEtro were currently booked 2 car

[Conner]

2v3 is nothing major, i've been on that train 1v3.

Choas!

I thought all Devon MEtro were currently booked 2 car

There is a couple of 153's that attach/deattach to the busy services, but the 153's often end up running by themselves.

[Jim]

2v3 is nothing major, i've been on that train 1v3.

Choas!

I thought all Devon MEtro were currently booked 2 car

There is a couple of 153's that attach/deattach to the busy services, but the 153's often end up running by themselves.

Complain enough and it might change with any luck...

[Conner]

2v3 is nothing major, i've been on that train 1v3.

Choas!

I thought all Devon MEtro were currently booked 2 car

There is a couple of 153's that attach/deattach to the busy services, but the 153's often end up running by themselves.

Complain enough and it might change with any luck...

Doesn't directly affect me just when I have been oh holiday there a couple of times and have noticed it.

[devon_metro]

Not sure what this Devon metro tosh is, but...

The 'Triangle (of doom)' as better known is a difficult one as some parts of the route need extra capacity at x whilst need very little at y.

[Lee]

Not sure what this Devon metro tosh is, but...

Apparently the name has been used for promotion purposes in the past.

[devon_metro]

Not seen any promotions!

Feel free to direct me to em 

[Lee]

Not seen any promotions!

Feel free to direct me to em 

I am told that it was in a newspaper a while back. Unfortunately I dont have a link , but I will check further when I have a moment.

[Lee]

Not sure what this Devon metro tosh is, but...

The 'Triangle (of doom)' as better known is a difficult one as some parts of the route need extra capacity at x whilst need very little at y.

Here is a quote from this very forum :

Tarka^▸ (Line from Barnstaple to Exeter) Line Timetable:
December 2007 would be virtually unchanged. From May 2008 there will be an additional Mon-Sat train - 0940 from Barnstaple - and they are looking at the possibility of an 1140 as well, although that's by no means certain. They will also look again at providing a standard-hour timetable around Exeter with a Devon Metro (which is exactly what Wessex called it in 2003...)

[FlyingDutchman]

Hi

I noticed on the Devon Council Web site, They have something called the Devon Metro Project.

http://www.devon.gov.uk/gsasearchresults.htm?q=devon+metro+project&search=Search...&requiredfields=devon&advanced=&as_epq=&as_eq=&as_oq1=&as_oq2=&as_oq3=&as_filetype=devon

It has some nice report and interest figures, but I noticed they never talk about re-instating Cullompton railway station or Okehampton Station.

When they Talk about Capacity issues between Exeter Central and St Davids Railway Station, why just they don't terminate trains at Central Using Platform 1.

Guy

[grahame]

Also, direct link to .pdf at http://www.devon.gov.uk/eldf-devonmetroappraisal.pdf

When they Talk about Capacity issues between Exeter Central and St Davids Railway Station, why just they don't terminate trains at Central Using Platform 1.

I would guess that the answer is "because it means that passengers arriving on the terminating train who are connecting on to other long distance destinations would have an extra change and an extra wait, which would lead to a significant drop off in their custom".   Can anyone confirm this?

A similar question might be asked about terminating trains that are inbound to Edinburgh Waverley at Haymarket, and on the TransWilts there's been the question at the north end - "Chippenham or Swindon?" and at the south end "Warminster or Salisbury"?   There's an excellent (negative) case against terminating short if you look at Dilton Marsh to Salisbury traffic; there's a surprisingly high potential flow from what's now a station set between two major housing / commuter areas to the biggest place in the council area, but the wait at Warminster on many services is pretty discouraging, with four of the nine Monday to Friday trains requiring a change there, and in three cases there not being an ongoing connection for over 45 minutes. Northbound it's a bit better; in 4 cases the wait is only about 25 minutes, and the other 5 are shorter or through trains.