Ivybridge: Rail Users Group, services and cancellations (merged topics)

[whole diary]

[vacman]

SDO^▸ (Selective Door Opening) is a pain in the arse, as you gotta return to the panel you started at to lock back up!

Not true, most sets have now been modified now in preparation for SDO 2 where the TM^‡(resolve) has to release doors behind, key out, walk to the rear, key in, lock doors and dispatch from rear!
As for Newquay, this is well overdue, lets not forget at least one potentially busy intermediate station, Bugle, Newquay's population also quadruples during summer, also, as far as i'm aware, FGW^▸ (First Great Western) are not getting any funding for the additional services from Dec, a stark contras tfrom the timetable proposed by the DFT^▸ (Department for Transport) who wanted the service reduced to just TWO trains per day, one stopper and one HST^▸ (High Speed Train) all year round, this would have meant that the intermediate stations at Luxulyan (which also has no bus service), Bugle, Roche, St Columb road and Quintrell Downs would have been left with only one train per day!

[Jim]

SDO^▸ (Selective Door Opening) is a pain in the arse, as you gotta return to the panel you started at to lock back up!

Not true, most sets have now been modified now in preparation for SDO 2 where the TM^‡(resolve) has to release doors behind, key out, walk to the rear, key in, lock doors and dispatch from rear!

Must be a new mod then!

[richard bickford]

Vacman, thanks for the info on exactly how SDO2 can operate. Is that the way it will have to be done, or can the TM^‡(resolve) choose to return to the same panel?

[Andy]

SDO^▸ (Selective Door Opening) is a pain in the arse, as you gotta return to the panel you started at to lock back up!

Not true, most sets have now been modified now in preparation for SDO 2 where the TM^‡(resolve) has to release doors behind, key out, walk to the rear, key in, lock doors and dispatch from rear!
As for Newquay, this is well overdue, lets not forget at least one potentially busy intermediate station, Bugle, Newquay's population also quadruples during summer, also, as far as i'm aware, FGW^▸ (First Great Western) are not getting any funding for the additional services from Dec, a stark contras tfrom the timetable proposed by the DFT^▸ (Department for Transport) who wanted the service reduced to just TWO trains per day, one stopper and one HST^▸ (High Speed Train) all year round, this would have meant that the intermediate stations at Luxulyan (which also has no bus service), Bugle, Roche, St Columb road and Quintrell Downs would have been left with only one train per day!

There is significant scope, imo, for a park & ride scheme to Newquay from the A30 being set up in the area (St. Columb Rd-St. Dennis Junction-Roche) where the branch runs close to the road. I think that an increased level of service here could woo users back to the railway and maybe increase the chances of a rerouted branch to St. Austell.

As for Ivybridge, I'd have thought it would be better to have Plymouth-Paddington HSTs stopping at Ivybridge rather than Pz-Paddington ones, as 5 mins on a 3h journey is less painful than 5 mins on a 5 hour one. Those, coupled with Plymouth-Bristol/Exeter stoppers would seem a better way forward.
 

[FarWestJohn]

Do not forget that three hours is the magic time that a train journey must not go over if it is to get a town/city into the considered maximum travel time from London for Business.

There was a big hue and cry a short while ago when the three hour times from Plymouth were extended by extra stops between Exeter and Reading.

Reading earlier about size of places and train provision.

St.Erth only has the main line service because of the branch line with its surrounding population of St.Ives, Carbis bay etc etc. [especially true during the summer]

Redruth and Camborne are the most condensed areas of population in Cornwall.

Bodmin Parkway is a railhead for a large area of North Cornwall

[Conner]

The messages regarding the London-West timetable have been moved to here: http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=2682.msg20382#new

[Lee]

My thanks to Andrew Pennington for providing the following, which is subject to further change, ongoing consultation and Network Rail validation :

At the December '08 timetable change FGW is making significant changes to the pattern of Ivybridge calls. Through the timetable development process trains are of course subject to iterative rtimings as the national corporate plan is produced and the times shown below should be treated accordingly. Nonetheless the FGW SX call specification can be summarised as per:
Down
0531 Bristol-Penzance @ 0759
0647 Bristol-Penzance @ 0901
0933 Exeter-Plymouth @ 1012
0905 Paddington-Plymouth @ 1207
1445 Newton Abbot-Plymouth @ 1513
1605 Paddington-Penzance @ 1910
1945 Paddington-Plymouth @ 2312
supplemented by SWT^▸ (South West Trains) calls @ 1341 & 1642
Up
0604 Penzance-Newton Abbot @ 0827
0743 Penzance-Paddington @ 1001
1001 Penzance-Paddington @ 1215
1140 Penzance-Newton Abbot @ 1400
1657 Plymouth-Paddington @ 1711
1644 Penzance-Exeter @ 1858
1905 Penzance-Exeter @ 2130
supplemented by SWT calls @ 1502 & 1803.

On Saturdays a similar pattern is also proposed noting of course that HSS^▸ (High Speed Services) service calls are subject to alteration depending on the engineering Rules of the Route that will apply in any given engineering period and the consequential routing of trains via either Bristol or Westbury as may be the case.

With respect to Sundays there is a roll forward of the existing level and general timing of services.

[oooooo]

I personnally think thats pretty good, much better eastbound morning service than under Wessex. Why are there SWT^▸ (South West Trains) calls added as a note, thought these ceased in Dec08, or am I missing something??

[richard bickford]

SWT^▸ (South West Trains) services cease from Dec '09 I think.

[Lee]

SWT^▸ (South West Trains) services cease from Dec '09 I think.

Related links.
http://www.irug.ik.com/news/6367105698.ikml

http://thisisdevon.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=141507&command=displayContent&sourceNode=257390&home=yes&more_nodeId1=257393&contentPK=20115860

[Lee]

From the FGW^▸ (First Great Western) website :

14:00 Penzance to London Paddington due 19:24
This train has been revised.It will additionally call at: Ivybridge.

[Lee]

A summary of the AGM^▸ (Annual General Meeting) can be found in the link below.
http://www.irug.ik.com/news/6367114196.ikml

[Lee]

Ivybridge Rail Users Group article link.
http://www.irug.ik.com/news/6367121815.ikml

[Chris from Nailsea]

"Last-minute preparations are under way for next weekend's Filham Music Festival. Hundreds are expected to flock to Filham Park in Ivybridge on Saturday for one of the biggest music events the area has seen. There are still a few tickets available for the event which has been dubbed 'Glastonbury in the South Hams' and will see Plymouth's top bands and musicians taking to the stage."

See http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Festival-amazing/article-310551-detail/article.html

[woody]

According to the FGW^▸ (First Great Western) journey planner Ivybridge will have 3 up and 2 down HSTs^▸ (High Speed Train) stopping there from December.The up ones being the Ex plymouth 0945,1200,16.57 HSTs and the down ones being the 09.06,1606 ex Paddingtons HSTs.