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« Reply #90 on: September 29, 2008, 21:37:23 » |
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1200 is completely unsuitable to be stopping additionally. On busy days it could do with being fast from Plymouth to Reading!!
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« Reply #91 on: September 29, 2008, 23:10:43 » |
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1200 is completely unsuitable to be stopping additionally. On busy days it could do with being fast from Plymouth to Reading!!
That would make sense, missing Exeter at 1300ish!Not.  |
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« Reply #92 on: September 30, 2008, 07:59:43 » |
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1200 is completely unsuitable to be stopping additionally. On busy days it could do with being fast from Plymouth to Reading!!
That would make sense, missing Exeter at 1300ish!Not. I don't know the metrics of this particular service and the surrounding ones ... but if a train IS already packed out, then there could be sense in missing out stops, could there not - displacing the intermediate station customer to slightly earlier / later and less overcrowded services, and giving a faster and more comfortable ride to the 12:00 passengers. I am reminded by devon_metro'c comments of a time I looked at the London Underground map and wondered "why haven't they extended the Victoria line south further from Brixton". The Northern line has a long tail to Morden, and I used to live out beyond Brixton in a highly populated ares, I wondered. It turns out (I read elsewhere) that any extensions to the Victoria line would just throw even more trafiic at the line through London, which is already running at capacity - and that an extension would simply replace one problem (south of Brixton transport) with another (central congestion). Along the same lines, I have to question local bypass proposals around here which - it would seem - may give some relief to one town but sponge other traffic into the area to the detriment of others. All of which is getting a long way from the subject of cutting out Exeter stops  |
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« Reply #93 on: September 30, 2008, 12:49:05 » |
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1200 is completely unsuitable to be stopping additionally. On busy days it could do with being fast from Plymouth to Reading!!
That would make sense, missing Exeter at 1300ish!Not. Reinstate the 1254 stopper to Paddinton! Of course though, only on isolated days is it so busy. |
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« Reply #94 on: September 30, 2008, 14:24:28 » |
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1200 is completely unsuitable to be stopping additionally. On busy days it could do with being fast from Plymouth to Reading!!
That would make sense, missing Exeter at 1300ish!Not. I don't know the metrics of this particular service and the surrounding ones ... but if a train IS already packed out, then there could be sense in missing out stops, could there not - displacing the intermediate station customer to slightly earlier / later and less overcrowded services, and giving a faster and more comfortable ride to the 12:00 passengers. I am reminded by devon_metro'c comments of a time I looked at the London Underground map and wondered "why haven't they extended the Victoria line south further from Brixton". The Northern line has a long tail to Morden, and I used to live out beyond Brixton in a highly populated ares, I wondered. It turns out (I read elsewhere) that any extensions to the Victoria line would just throw even more trafiic at the line through London, which is already running at capacity - and that an extension would simply replace one problem (south of Brixton transport) with another (central congestion). Along the same lines, I have to question local bypass proposals around here which - it would seem - may give some relief to one town but sponge other traffic into the area to the detriment of others. All of which is getting a long way from the subject of cutting out Exeter stops Cutting Exeter stops on the GW▸ line would be less of a problem if the LSWR▸ line were upgraded.... |
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« Reply #95 on: September 30, 2008, 17:36:46 » |
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According to the FGW▸ journey planner Ivybridge will have 3 up and 2 down HSTs▸ stopping there from December.The up ones being the Ex plymouth 0945,1200,16.57 HSTs and the down ones being the 09.06,1606 ex Paddingtons HSTs.
Also the 20xx from Pad will be stopping at Ivybridge |
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« Reply #96 on: September 30, 2008, 19:24:54 » |
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According to the FGW▸ journey planner Ivybridge will have 3 up and 2 down HSTs▸ stopping there from December.The up ones being the Ex plymouth 0945,1200,16.57 HSTs and the down ones being the 09.06,1606 ex Paddingtons HSTs.
Also the 20xx from Pad will be stopping at Ivybridge Sorry missed that one so its 3 up and 3 down. |
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« Reply #97 on: October 23, 2008, 09:49:32 » |
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Quote from Ivybridge Rail Users Group (link below) : http://www.irug.ik.com/news/6367130288.ikmlTo celebrate the introduction of High Speed Trains to Ivybridge, First Great Western has offered 5 pairs of return rail tickets to London (Paddington) valid for use on the 10.00am service from Ivybridge on Friday 19th December. Return travel may be on the same day or within 28 days. |
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« Reply #98 on: October 23, 2008, 21:23:50 » |
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From the FGW▸ website :
19:05 Penzance to Exeter St Davids due 22:28
This train will be terminated at Plymouth.It will no longer call at: Ivybridge, Totnes, Newton Abbot, Teignmouth, Dawlish, Dawlish Warren, Starcross, Exeter St Thomas and Exeter St Davids.This is due to a train fault.
This obviously creates a gap for through passenger journeys as well.
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« Reply #99 on: November 06, 2008, 16:47:46 » |
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I have heard FGW▸ HSTs▸ will be making more local stops. that started in the Bristol area last year, looks like Devon will be getting something similar then.  |
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« Reply #100 on: November 06, 2008, 17:24:06 » |
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I have heard FGW▸ HSTs▸ will be making more local stops. that started in the Bristol area last year, looks like Devon will be getting something similar then. Oh grrrreat, they could go for the record for the longest slowest possible journey from Penzance to Paddington, next it'll be bloody Keyham, Dockyard and St Budeaux! |
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« Reply #101 on: November 06, 2008, 20:35:52 » |
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I have heard FGW▸ HSTs▸ will be making more local stops. that started in the Bristol area last year, looks like Devon will be getting something similar then. Oh grrrreat, they could go for the record for the longest slowest possible journey from Penzance to Paddington, next it'll be bloody Keyham, Dockyard and St Budeaux! I agree, it is bad news. And there is already a Padd - Bristol HST that stops at Keyham!! How long are the West Country trains taking from December? - they need to get it BELOW 3 hrs to Plymouth to tempt business travellers out of planes and cars. |
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« Reply #102 on: November 06, 2008, 20:57:41 » |
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Welcome to the forum, DevonTrains2008 - and thanks for that information!
Do you happen to have a source that you could quote, by any chance?
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« Reply #103 on: November 06, 2008, 20:58:34 » |
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I have heard FGW▸ HSTs▸ will be making more local stops. that started in the Bristol area last year, looks like Devon will be getting something similar then. Oh grrrreat, they could go for the record for the longest slowest possible journey from Penzance to Paddington, next it'll be bloody Keyham, Dockyard and St Budeaux! I agree, it is bad news. And there is already a Padd - Bristol HST that stops at Keyham!! How long are the West Country trains taking from December? - they need to get it BELOW 3 hrs to Plymouth to tempt business travellers out of planes and cars. I hope you mean Keynsham! Fastest train PAD» - PLY» will be 3hrs3mins Fastest Train PLY-PAD will be 3hrs |
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« Reply #104 on: November 06, 2008, 21:00:13 » |
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I meant the Key- station near Bristol, where is the other?
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