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« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2019, 19:47:29 »

Definitely a collision.
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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2019, 10:16:52 »

The way the passengers leapt out of the wrecked train and ran across the tracks, apparently without checking for the approach of other trains is a bit hair raising
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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2019, 13:35:51 »

The way the passengers leapt out of the wrecked train and ran across the tracks, apparently without checking for the approach of other trains is a bit hair raising

That's what happens when people panic!  Sadly the Maidenhead HST (High Speed Train) fire back in the 1990s saw someone killed in similar circumstances running across the tracks.
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« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2020, 22:21:27 »

Very interesting to compare how things are done in India - ranging from their "delay repay" scheme to "can I take my parrot on the train"

https://blog.railyatri.in/8-indian-railways-rules-you-never-knew-about/

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The Railways Act of 1989 clearly states that the IRCTC authorized food vendors selling packed food items or water bottles cannot sell their goods over the MRP. Any vendor if caught in the act, would be punished with a hefty fine and may have the license cancelled. Railways have a toll free number of 1800111321  to register complains in this regard.
... I do recall some companies in trouble for marking up in hospital shops, and station catering often feels more expensive than outside the station.

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« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2023, 18:36:58 »

Early reports state as many as 50 lives lost, and several hundred injured.
It appears that several vehicles of a passenger train derailed, and that the derailed coaches were foul of the opposite line, and that a freight train then ran into them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-65793257

These are early reports and therefore liable to later revision and/or correction.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2023, 22:09:22 »

Death toll now risen to 'more than' 120.

Updated news item from BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page):
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-65793257
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« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2023, 01:25:09 »

Later reports put the death toll at "over 200" Awful. Nearly 1,000 hurt.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2023, 07:27:42 »

Later reports put the death toll at "over 200" Awful. Nearly 1,000 hurt.

And now - worse than any rail accident, ever, in the UK (United Kingdom).  Sadly, not a record for India.

Updating at https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-65793257

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at least 288 people are now known to have been killed and 850 injured in a multiple train collision in India's eastern Odisha state, officials say.
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« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2023, 14:46:51 »

Amended to "at least 260" & another page refers to 261. Tragic
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« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2023, 19:14:11 »


KS Anand CPRO of SE Railway (India) has said that the train was signalled off the main line in to the goods/platform (yes they still call it goods) loop, already occupied. The second (up) express struck by the wreckage.

Shades of Harrow.

There's also talk of recent signalling work (Clapham?).

The coaches not totally destroyed look to have performed well.

Sad to see such kind, gentle people hurt.

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« Reply #25 on: June 04, 2023, 19:41:13 »


KS Anand CPRO of SE Railway (India) has said that the train was signalled off the main line in to the goods/platform (yes they still call it goods) loop, already occupied. The second (up) express struck by the wreckage.

Shades of Harrow.

All sort of shades.  I was looking at Quintinshill too ... but these are multiple train collisions where the sheer numbers of people are as high. If the report is correct, it's comparison is perhaps with Wetheral See Wikipedia Report

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At about 4pm on Saturday 3 December 1836, a train was travelling westwards towards Carlisle, drawn by the locomotive SAMSON, with 26 passengers aboard plus a heavy load of goods. About half a mile before the siding the driver shut the locomotive regulator and the train descended the gradient. On reaching a bridge just before the siding, the train driver saw a man upon the line and signalled to him to get out of the way. The driver then saw that the points were set for the siding rather than the main line. He set the locomotive into reverse and he and the fireman leaped off. Because of the downward gradient the train carried on its way unchecked.
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« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2024, 19:38:05 »

Thankfully, it seems that no one was hurt.

https://news-sky-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/india-runaway-train-travels-40-miles-without-a-driver-13081349?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17089693207508&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.sky.com%2Fstory%2Findia-runaway-train-travels-40-miles-without-a-driver-13081349

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« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2024, 10:26:35 »


Whoops!

4-5-5 bells, and Form 1s to the driver and assistant. 

Such a relief that this did not end badly
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« Reply #28 on: February 29, 2024, 02:25:44 »

Presumably they do not have AWS (Automatic Warning System) or TPWS (Train Protection and Warning System), nor any similar equipment that would apply the brakes under such circumstances.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #29 on: Yesterday at 19:21:08 »

From the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page):

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At least 11 people have been killed and five injured after they fled rumours of a fire on board their train in India, only to be hit by another train.

Railway officials said the passengers got down from the Mumbai-bound train in western Maharashtra state after someone pulled the emergency cord, causing it to stop. They were hit by a train on an adjacent track. It was not immediately clear whether there had actually been a fire.

India has launched a $30m (£24bn) programme to modernise its railways in recent years but this has been marred by a series of accidents, including a major three-train crash in 2023 in the state of Odisha which left nearly 300 people dead.

Maharashtra Chief Minister Devendra Fadnavis said in a post on X that he was "deeply saddened by the tragic loss of lives" during the incident near Pachora in Jalgaon district, about 400km from Mumbai, India's financial capital.  He said eight ambulances had been dispatched and hospitals were on standby.

The crash will be seen as a setback for Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who has called for modernisation of the railways to boost the economy and connectivity.

There are plans to boost spending on the programme in next month's budget, Reuters news agency reports.


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