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« on: February 09, 2012, 09:42:11 »
Heard on BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) radio Devon news this morning that today is the day that bidders for the Great Western franchise have to put their names foreward so hopefully we will finally find out who First are up against.
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2012, 09:59:58 »
List of bidders wont be announced until after Easter - I understand 12th April is the likely date
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2012, 11:04:56 »
Could be interesting!
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2012, 16:59:53 »
Woody's right!

Paul Clifton, BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) South's Transport correspondentm, tweeted this a couple of hours ago....

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Competition for next Great Western franchise: First Group, Stagecoach, National Express, Arriva (DB» (Deutsche Bahn - German State Railway - about)) & Renfe. Keolis withdrew.

The 'after Easter'date is probably the announcement of those that pre-qualify. This lot already do.....
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2012, 17:56:54 »
So the French surrendered without a fight?

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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2012, 18:18:07 »
Ah, mon Dieu!
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2012, 21:59:59 »
Between 2 if you ask me
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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2012, 22:10:27 »
Did we?  Shocked  Cheesy Grin

Seriously: I'll put my cards on the table and offer my personal support to First Group / First Great Western.

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William Huskisson MP▸ (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post - a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London, depending on context) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.

"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner."  Discuss.
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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2012, 22:20:02 »
I always like to see something new, so my vote goes to Renfe.

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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2012, 22:31:44 »
It should be pointed out that this list of five potential operators is not a list of bidders, merely those that have submitted answers to the pre-qualification questionnaire. (MS Word Doc)
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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2012, 22:46:51 »
IMO▸ ('in my opinion') Stagecoach shouldn't get it to prevent a monopoly on London to the West.
NX/Arriva shouldn't get it for obvious reasons... Angry

Govia would have been perfect - I wonder why they withdrew? Bitten off more than they can chew...
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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2012, 23:32:18 »
I'd like First Group to keep it.

First Group have the background on the route, are fully involved currently in the projects that will impact the future franchise so to me it makes sense to keep the same people involved in the future.

And plus First Group have done it's best with what it has. There are faults, have been delays, but a change of management won't make that go  away.

So..keep First Group in charge, it will continue the good work it is already doing with Network Rail to improve things.

(This is obviously just opinion and speculation)
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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2012, 12:18:09 »
Quote from: Btline on February 09, 2012, 22:46:51
IMO▸ ('in my opinion') Stagecoach shouldn't get it to prevent a monopoly on London to the West.

If there was any likelihood whatsoever of that being considered a problem, they wouldn't be bidding.

The government's plans to combine SN and FCC▸ (First Capital Connect) set a big precedent, by wiping out all the existing competition on the Brighton Line...

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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2012, 14:01:54 »
Gatwick Express run to Brighton?....
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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2012, 14:20:06 »
Quote from: ChrisB on February 10, 2012, 14:01:54
Gatwick Express run to Brighton?....

Gatwick Express is just a sub-brand of Southern, and in the peaks the services do run to/from Brighton - hence the units only being branded with the word 'Express' on its own nowadays...

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