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« Reply #510 on: November 15, 2014, 22:29:19 »

BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) Points West covered the unveiling in Japan of the first Class 800 set on their Friday episode. Some different footage used than that from BBC South's Paul Clifton earlier in the week.

Pieces to camera from RAIL Magazine editor Nigel Harris and FGW (First Great Western)'s Dan Panes. Also a small feature of the braking system manufacture at Knorr Bremse in Melksham.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-30067282
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« Reply #511 on: November 15, 2014, 22:42:53 »

Bet that's the first time Nailsea and Backwell has appeared on a train display in Japan.  Grin
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« Reply #512 on: November 16, 2014, 11:27:37 »

BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) Points West covered the unveiling in Japan of the first Class 800 set on their Friday episode. Some different footage used than that from BBC South's Paul Clifton earlier in the week.

Pieces to camera from RAIL Magazine editor Nigel Harris and FGW (First Great Western)'s Dan Panes. Also a small feature of the braking system manufacture at Knorr Bremse in Melksham.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-30067282


Bizarre - the one shown on the BBC South piece had two inside cylinders; the model shown in the Points West film only appears to have one..!
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« Reply #513 on: November 27, 2014, 11:20:27 »

An interesting last paragraph of this article regarding the East Coast IEP (Intercity Express Program / Project. This will offer more capacity on routes, save money, give a consistent and safe service and meet customer requirements. Intended to replace HSTs.)'s.  Is this the DfT passing the buck, or is it really still possible that a buffet could be provided?   Undecided

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/11558976._/

Indeed, further confirmation that buffets for either the ECML (East Coast Main Line) or WCML (West Coast Main Line) fleets could still easily be provided is in the latest edition of RAIL:

'Hitachi Europe CEO (Chief Executive Officer) Keith Jordan confirmed that, in the light of the DfT's new passengers' first franchising policy, should train operators require buffet cars before construction commences, the IEP vehicle interior design and installation is capable of being modified.'

Whether either operator will require them is a different matter of course, but so much for 'finished trains' and 'too late' comments.
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« Reply #514 on: December 22, 2014, 18:42:59 »

Discussion about the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) interactive feature on the HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) has been moved to its own dedicated topic:

http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=15077.0

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« Reply #515 on: January 07, 2015, 15:18:17 »

First five car pre-series class 800 is on its way. Being loaded onto barge at Hitachi's Kasado works in Japan. Following transhipment at Kobe it is expected to arrive in the UK (United Kingdom) during March.

https://twitter.com/HitachiRailEU/status/552787897162940418/photo/1
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« Reply #516 on: January 07, 2015, 20:23:13 »

Hopefully it won't keel over in the Solent, then.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #517 on: January 07, 2015, 20:37:50 »

I have a colleague at work who is being seconded off to the ECML (East Coast Main Line) as part of the team supporting the ETCS (European Train Control System) trials for this first Unit in a few months
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« Reply #518 on: January 08, 2015, 16:32:50 »

Hopefully it won't keel over in the Solent, then.  Roll Eyes

Don't be so inSolent, CfN (see what I did there?)
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« Reply #519 on: January 08, 2015, 16:49:43 »

Hopefully it won't keel over in the Solent, then.  Roll Eyes

I see that the Queen's Harbour Master at Portsmouth has set up a moving 'Total Exclusion Zone' around the vessel, so perhaps any passing yachtsmen trying to take a close look ought to check out their insurance against torpedo attacks...   Huh

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« Reply #520 on: January 08, 2015, 17:33:35 »

They'll be fine if they stay outside the total exclusion zone, or are sailing away.

Oh, wait a minute...  Tongue
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« Reply #521 on: January 08, 2015, 23:21:42 »

They never did find that missing logbook, did they?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #522 on: January 09, 2015, 16:41:48 »

First five car pre-series class 800 is on its way. Being loaded onto barge at Hitachi's Kasado works in Japan. Following transhipment at Kobe it is expected to arrive in the UK (United Kingdom) during March.

https://twitter.com/HitachiRailEU/status/552787897162940418/photo/1

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UK: The first pre-series Class 800 trainset ordered under the Intercity Express Programme left Hitachi^s Kasado plant in Japan on January 7 for delivery to the UK. It is scheduled to be shipped from the port of Kobe on January 22 and arrive in the UK in March.

The five-car electro-diesel trainset will be fitted with measuring systems for running tests to be undertaken on the East Coast Main Line by Hitachi Rail Europe, which will enable acceptance of the trainset by Agility Trains, the special-purpose company that will own the IEP (Intercity Express Program / Project. This will offer more capacity on routes, save money, give a consistent and safe service and meet customer requirements. Intended to replace HSTs.) trainsets and provide them to the Great Western and InterCity East Coast franchisees. The pre-series trainset will also be used for staff training.

^After unveiling this train in November last year, I am immensely proud that we today see the first shipment leave our factory in Kasado^, said Alistair Dormer, Global CEO (Chief Executive Officer) of Hitachi Rail. ^Our engineering teams in the UK and Japan have been working exceptionally hard with all stakeholders to ensure that this train will be ready for testing in the UK from April this year onward.^

A total of 12 trainsets are to be built in Japan, including two five-car and one nine-car pre-series trainsets, before assembly switches to Hitachi Rail Europe^s ^82m plant under construction at Newton Aycliffe in northern England. This is scheduled to be completed in summer 2015, with the recruitment of 730 staff underway and production to begin in 2016.



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« Reply #523 on: January 12, 2015, 11:30:56 »

According to an FGW (First Great Western) document to staff, testing at first to be on NR» (Network Rail - home page)'s testing facility, not the East Coast ML.

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Our current HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) fleet has a mixture of kitchens and standalone buffets, but every SET (Super Express Train (now IET)) will have kitchen facilities on board - extending our customer offer not reducing it.  Last year, we introduced new Pullman services and added dozens of new products to other menus.
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« Reply #524 on: January 12, 2015, 12:54:21 »

For some while we have known that the new trains are expected to be equipped with kitchens so as to permit of meal service in first class.
However catering for steerage is expected to be downgraded to trolley service only.

The statement quoted above does nothing to alter this.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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