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« on: January 05, 2012, 15:40:52 »

Passengers clambered down onto the tracks today to help staff clear a fallen tree of a rail line in Warwickshire. This occurred on a day when Network Rail were stretched to the limit as trees came crashing down across the region.

As a result of the passengers actions, the line was re-opened after only 40 minutes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-16422955?
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2012, 16:10:16 »

I'm surprised that NR» (Network Rail - home page) didn't insist on checking for themselves that there wasn't any damage to their rails / equipment before services were allowed to resume.

Also, it's reasonably easy to alight from a train not at a platform - I wonder how they all got back onboard?
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2012, 16:16:54 »

I note that the incident happened at Wood End  Grin
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2012, 18:48:38 »

I'm surprised that NR» (Network Rail - home page) didn't insist on checking for themselves that there wasn't any damage to their rails / equipment before services were allowed to resume.

Also, it's reasonably easy to alight from a train not at a platform - I wonder how they all got back onboard?

Possibly there was an NR mobile operations manager on scene directing operations, otherwise maybe it was a commendable piece of pragmatism by a controller somewhere who was prepared to trust the judgement of the train crew that the problem had been fully dealt with.

If you're hale and hearty enough to climb down out of a train it's not that much more difficult getting back up again, and guards'/drivers' doors are provided with steps and grab rails for this reason so assuming it was only a few passengers I doubt there would have been any trouble getting back on-board.
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2012, 20:02:04 »

There's also the option of deploying the emergency ladders to aid re-boarding if necessary.  Lips sealed
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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.

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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2012, 21:16:19 »

also an incident at four OAKS!   Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2012, 19:29:34 »

Passengers clambered down onto the tracks today to help staff clear a fallen tree of a rail line in Warwickshire. This occurred on a day when Network Rail were stretched to the limit as trees came crashing down across the region.

As a result of the passengers actions, the line was re-opened after only 40 minutes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-16422955?
Where does it say the emphasised part in the article. I am struggling to find it.
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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2012, 19:42:08 »

It isn't unusual for the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) to edit a story without changing the URL, unfortunately.  It's probably been fixed updated...  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2012, 19:44:54 »

Hmm.  Roll Eyes

Btline: were you quoting verbatim from that particular BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) news item, in your original post?

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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2012, 20:00:56 »

Googling 'rail passengers remove tree' suggests the story was definitely live at some stage - as far as the results page goes, there are a couple of local news sites appearing to cross reference to the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) site, none of which seems to make sense now...
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2012, 20:02:20 »

I certainly read a story on the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) website where it was suggested that passengers did indeed help move trees.  I'm not sure whether it was this article or a different one.
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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2012, 21:40:36 »

It was not a quote, but the article headline was something "along the lines of" what I wrote. The article made a specific reference to passengers helping.

Perhaps the managers have slammed the decision, and London Midland want to minimise people reading it. Otherwise we'll have people prising the doors open every time a train slows down!
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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2012, 21:54:24 »

Fair enough.

Were those fallen trees AXED to clear them from the tracks, by any chance?

CfN.  Shocked
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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.

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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2012, 22:11:19 »

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I expect NR» (Network Rail - home page) will be getting the chainsaws out to that line to prevent it happening again! The "Four Oaks", may become three... or none! Cry

Reminds me of that article you posted a while back Chris about Network Rail axing all those trees in North London - now we know why it has to be done. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2012, 22:18:37 »

Yes ... on a rather more serious note, that thought had occurred to me as well.

It's all very well for some people to 'hug trees' on railway embankments or cuttings to prevent them from being felled - but when those trees show their gratitude by shedding their leaves or even collapsing altogether onto the railway line, there's a public outcry about the train delays caused ...  Roll Eyes
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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.

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