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« on: December 08, 2010, 19:16:52 » |
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It's not just the fares that are going up in January as another way for TOCs▸ to raise more revenue, car park charges are going up too according to The Daily Telegraph.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/road-and-rail-transport/8186667/More-misery-for-commuters-as-station-car-park-charges-soar.htmlCommuters, already hit with the steepest fare rises in a generation, are facing above inflation increases for using station car parks.
Major train operators are pushing up parking fees by at least eight per cent in a move, adding at least another ^50 a year to the cost of getting to work. The increases come into force in January at a time when rail fares will go up by an average of 6.2 per cent, with some commuters facing rises approaching 13 per cent. The biggest increase in car parking is being imposed by First Great Western. Its customers are facing average increases of 8.77 per cent.
It will see the cost of an annual pass at Charlbury in Oxfordshire go up from ^613 to ^673. South West Trains and East Midlands Trains are raising their parking charges by eight per cent and First Capital Connect by 8.5 per cent.
This will see a 50 pence increase in the daily charge at Potters Bar, from ^5.50 to ^6.00. An annual pass will go up from ^825 to ^900.
Passenger groups voiced their outrage at the rises. ^Although station car parks remain cheaper than many others, some of these increases are astronomical. It is especially worrying in places where driving to the station is the only option," said Jo de Bank, spokesman for London TravelWatch
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johoare
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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2010, 21:32:28 » |
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I thought most station car parks were operated by external companies though? Or is that just Maidenhead?
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Chris from Nailsea
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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2010, 21:36:12 » |
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Generally, railway station car parks are operated day-to-day by APCOA▸ - on behalf of FGW▸ .
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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SDS
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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2010, 21:42:24 » |
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NCP seem to have a lot of Car Parks as well.
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I do not work for FGW▸ and posts should not be assumed and do not imply they are statements, unless explicitly stated that they are, from any TOC▸ including First Great Western.
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Chris from Nailsea
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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2010, 21:53:01 » |
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They do - but APCOA▸ have the contract with FGW▸ for railway station car parks!
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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johoare
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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2010, 22:05:29 » |
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So FGW▸ benefit from the car park charges then?
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Chris from Nailsea
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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2010, 22:09:26 » |
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Yes.
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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johoare
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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2010, 22:12:41 » |
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Cool. Maidenhead car parking isn't too bad for a whole day so I'm not to worried... I just wondered..
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Timmer
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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2010, 22:15:05 » |
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I remember the days of the man in his little red box at Bath Spa station who used to look after the car parks there. All a bit more technical now using your mobile to pay for parking.
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2010, 17:58:13 » |
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Wikipedia may suggest why:- In 1999, Salamander AG of Kornwestheim acquired 27.1% of APCOA Parking AG shares in April, and took complete control from October. The company continued to expand through acquisition, including: the parking subsidiary of UK▸ based First Group.
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Mookiemoo
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2010, 19:01:02 » |
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yeah they are and guess what.... http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=1583539Works, stopped paying them about a year ago I always pay but if something goes wrong and I get one - I bin them
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Mookiemoo
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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2010, 19:01:46 » |
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Usually they go wrong because the train is late and I don't have the ringo code
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Ditched former sig - now I need to think of something amusing - brain hurts -I'll steal from the master himself - Einstein:
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
"Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love"
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SDS
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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2010, 22:22:01 » |
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Wikipedia may suggest why:- In 1999, Salamander AG of Kornwestheim acquired 27.1% of APCOA Parking AG shares in April, and took complete control from October. The company continued to expand through acquisition, including: the parking subsidiary of UK▸ based First Group. Wrong, they don't have FCC▸ carparks for example.
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I do not work for FGW▸ and posts should not be assumed and do not imply they are statements, unless explicitly stated that they are, from any TOC▸ including First Great Western.
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JayMac
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« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2010, 07:28:18 » |
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They acquired the parking subsidiary of First Group as it was at that date. Of course they didn't acquire First Capital Connect's car parks. FCC▸ wasn't part of First Group until 2006.
In the west, I believe the former Wessex Trains car-parks that were managed by CP Plus transferred to APCOA▸ after the end of the contract.
Not forgetting of course that FGW▸ introduced parking charges at many former Wessex Trains locations that were previously free.
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Chris from Nailsea
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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2011, 14:03:13 » |
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From the BBC» : Train companies accused over parking charge rise
Train operators have been accused of topping up their profits by increasing the cost of car parking.
Hundreds of station car parks in England - many in the Home Counties - saw prices go up by at least twice the rate of inflation this month.
Commuters and motoring groups say the rises are excessive and bigger than increases in train fares.
Train firms say many stations have not seen price rises and others still cost around the same as nearby car parks.
More than 50 stations operated by the South Eastern rail franchise have increased charges from ^3 to ^3.50 this month, an increase of 16%.
East Midlands, First Capital Connect, First Great Western and South-West Trains have all put up charges by at least 8%, though not at all stations.
Such increases come on top of the increased price of fuel, and an average rise of 6.2% in train fares this month, adding to the misery for commuters.
Regulars catching a train from Three Bridges station in West Sussex got a particularly nasty surprise when they arrived at the station car park this week.
They found that charges had been increased by 19%, without warning, from ^4.20 to ^5.00.
"That's a shocking amount of money," said Darren Roberts, who does a daily commute to London. "You're encouraged to be out of your car, but you get hit with money upon money upon money to get where you need to be."
As with many stations, commuters have nowhere else to park, and often cannot get a space anyway.
Southern Railways, which operates Three Bridges, says it is trying to encourage more people to use a second car park 100 metres further away.
It has raised charges there by much less than at its main car park.
Nevertheless prices at the second car park have still risen by 9%.
The RAC Foundation believes that train operators are putting up car parking charges as a sneaky way of increasing their profits.
While the price of train tickets is controlled by the regulator, rail companies are free to set their own charges for car parking.
"We suspect that they're topping up their profits," says Jo Abbotts of the RAC Foundation.
She points out that the price of parking is now as much as a quarter of the cost of the ticket itself.
A season ticket from Oxford to London costs ^4,104, she says, while the cost of parking at Oxford station is ^1,200 a year.
The RAC Foundation is particularly worried that the price of parking could encourage commuters to abandon the train, and drive to work instead.
"If the cost of car parking is preventing them from taking the train, and forcing them to take their cars for the entire journey, then we need to address those issues," says Jo Abbotts.
The train operators point out that many stations have not had price rises at all, or else they have adjusted charges to remain comparable with nearby car parks.
In Scotland there have been no increases, as the operator Scotrail is not allowed to put up prices without permission from the Scottish government.
Other operators say they have increased charges to pay for improvements, such as security lighting.
The train companies say they have also had to cope with the VAT▸ rise this month, on top of CPI inflation, which is running at 3.7%
A spokesperson for the Association of Train Operating Companies said: "Many of the UK▸ 's stations don't charge for car parking at all, and many car parks have discounted prices at quieter times of the day."
But the RAC is still not convinced.
It suggests that car parking charges could be capped, and only allowed to increase at the same rate as train tickets themselves.
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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