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21/04/25 08:03 Bristol Temple Meads to Weymouth
21/04/25 12:12 Salisbury to Bristol Temple Meads
21/04/25 23:30 Cardiff Central to Bristol Temple Meads
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22:30 Cardiff Central to Westbury
23:11 Cardiff Central to Bristol Temple Meads
23:13 Swindon to Cheltenham Spa
21/04/25 05:47 Exeter St Davids to Cardiff Central
21/04/25 05:53 Bristol Temple Meads to Cardiff Central
21/04/25 05:58 Westbury to Cardiff Central
21/04/25 06:01 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
21/04/25 06:28 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
21/04/25 06:28 Bristol Temple Meads to Cardiff Central
21/04/25 06:57 Cardiff Central to Bristol Temple Meads
21/04/25 06:59 Westbury to Cardiff Central
21/04/25 07:20 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
21/04/25 07:27 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
21/04/25 08:00 Cardiff Central to Plymouth
21/04/25 08:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
21/04/25 08:27 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
21/04/25 09:00 Cardiff Central to Penzance
21/04/25 09:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
21/04/25 09:28 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
21/04/25 10:00 Cardiff Central to Taunton
21/04/25 10:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
21/04/25 10:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
21/04/25 10:45 Bristol Temple Meads to Salisbury
21/04/25 11:00 Cardiff Central to Penzance
21/04/25 11:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
21/04/25 11:29 Weymouth to Gloucester
21/04/25 11:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
21/04/25 12:00 Cardiff Central to Taunton
21/04/25 12:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
21/04/25 12:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
21/04/25 13:00 Cardiff Central to Penzance
21/04/25 13:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
21/04/25 13:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
21/04/25 14:00 Cardiff Central to Penzance
21/04/25 14:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
21/04/25 14:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
21/04/25 14:59 Cardiff Central to Taunton
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21/04/25 16:27 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
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21/04/25 18:00 Cardiff Central to Penzance
21/04/25 18:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
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21/04/25 19:28 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
21/04/25 20:00 Cardiff Central to Taunton
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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2010, 07:17:13 »
It was a great shame the government's ^300m DMU▸ (Diesel Multiple Unit) project was cancelled because of future electrification which may never happen. Would have solved a lot of overcrowding issues in the West by cascading the 158 fleet to other routes and given the Cardiff-Portsmouth line the decent stock it deserves for a long distance route.

We are increasingly seeing what a short sighted decision this was with services running full when three car and leaving passengers behind when 2 car.
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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2010, 10:28:38 »
it wouldn't even be too difficult to extend the 172 order as the production line is currently open! Barmy decision.
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« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2010, 13:20:20 »
Quote from: devon_metro on February 20, 2010, 10:28:38
it wouldn't even be too difficult to extend the 172 order as the production line is currently open! Barmy decision.
Exactly, its still not too late.

Looks like there are 4 diagrams running short formed today.
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« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2010, 15:24:48 »
Quote from: Timmer on February 20, 2010, 13:20:20
Quote from: devon_metro on February 20, 2010, 10:28:38
it wouldn't even be too difficult to extend the 172 order as the production line is currently open! Barmy decision.
Exactly, its still not too late.

Looks like there are 4 diagrams running short formed today.

i think there is 3 short formed today because only 7 out of 10 3 cars are out to play,2 are stopped 798&956 and 2 are split back as 2 cars temporarily for repairs 951&952.

i also think the cancelling of dmu order is a joke the cardiff-pompey line is in desperate need of new stock ideally 4 cars.especially considering electrification may never happen due to recession and the need for government to cut costs not to mention a change in government in a few months might mean a change in thinking/priorities
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« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2010, 15:25:48 »
The idea that the DMU▸ (Diesel Multiple Unit) project was part of a plan to kick start the economy during the recession seems to have been completely forgotten about - but as discussed at the time, the long term nature of the project didn't reflect that aim anyway...

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« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2010, 21:28:44 »
The 1730 was running short formed with 2 carriages - not sure which others were - think the 1830 was 3 carriages. There was also no catering on the 1730 according to the station announcements.
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« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2010, 13:42:19 »
Quote from: Timmer on February 20, 2010, 07:17:13
It was a great shame the government's ^300m DMU▸ (Diesel Multiple Unit) project was cancelled because of future electrification which may never happen. Would have solved a lot of overcrowding issues in the West by cascading the 158 fleet to other routes and given the Cardiff-Portsmouth line the decent stock it deserves for a long distance route.

We are increasingly seeing what a short sighted decision this was with services running full when three car and leaving passengers behind when 2 car.

Seriously, does anyone know if Passenger Focus has any real concern at all about this?    What is this Quango actually doing about overcrowding on Cardiff -Portsmouth? Their useless last newsletter in December seemed full of comgratulating FGW▸ (First Great Western) for its improvements.   Perhaps they should have their next management meeting at Bradford on Avon.   
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« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2010, 18:54:34 »
Quote from: crwydryn on February 21, 2010, 13:42:19
Seriously, does anyone know if Passenger Focus has any real concern at all about this?    ...

Passenger Focus's position is that they are financed by the DfT» (Department for Transport - about) and ensure that the DfT's franchise specification is met. I don't know the answer as to whether or not they have serious concerns, but I would suspect that the answer hinges on whether the step back up from 2 to 3 coaches per train became a formal part of the franchise agreement, or if it was a looser agreement or promise made under separate cover, which would then put it outside their remit as I understand it.
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