Could the train manager please ask people to close the doors AND windows?

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[plymothian]

Didn't they used to be sprung so they shut by themselves?

[moonrakerz]

Never had this problem with the leather strap !

[ChrisB]

Surely, the person opening the door (when alighting) can close the window as well as opening it? You have to withdraw your arm through the window after opening the door, and it doesn't take many seconds to raise the window before pushing the door further open to alight!

It's what I do....

[John R]

I always try to pull the window up if I'm the one that has opened the door. But many are quite stiff, and are much harder to pull up than push down, especially if you've only one free hand.

So if I have people behind me waiting to get off, and I can't do it at the first attempt, then I'll leave the train and leave it open.

[IndustryInsider]

It's what I do....

It's what I do, too. It's probably what quite a large percentage of members of this forum do. However, for the average punter it's clearly not the obvious thing to do, otherwise more of them would do it. I doubt the stickers about the environment are noticed by more than a tiny fraction of the passengers either - but that's not to say they aren't a good idea.

I guess it could be added to the TM^‡(resolve)'s announcement scripts, but I think the majority of us want those reduced, not added to!

[willc]

Some of the crews on Cotswold Line HSTs^▸ (High Speed Train) have been asking people to close doors and windows in recent weeks - only common sense with temperatures hovering about zero and power snow blowing everywhere - and I was thanked a couple of time for closing windows while walking down the platform after getting off at Moreton.

All they need to do now is point out passengers can shut the doors on Turbos before all the heat is lost during station stops.

But I don't think the issue of draughts from open windows on Mk3s is anything new. It was noticeable way back in the 70s when the HSTs were introduced that you would get a draught as they slowed for stations or entered tunnels if a window was open. And back them some of the guards on the ECML^▸ (East Coast Main Line) services did ask for people to shut windows once they had got doors open - I've had 30-plus years' practice by now...

[johoare]

Surely, the person opening the door (when alighting) can close the window as well as opening it? You have to withdraw your arm through the window after opening the door, and it doesn't take many seconds to raise the window before pushing the door further open to alight!

It's what I do....

That's the point I'm trying not to swing out, hanging onto the door, with my arm still out the window 

[ChrisB]

I think that comment mighht just giove your height away!

I can easily drop the handle, let the door open just off the hook, then reach back in, close the window & push the door open further....

[Tim]

I'm not sure what type of train you're talking about here? I'm guessing HSTs^▸ (High Speed Train) if there is a train manager.. But surely if it's an HST you don't notice if they are open or not if you're in the main carriage which are protected by internal dorrs?  It did make me think though, having got an HST to Slough from Paddington earlier, and having had to lean out the window to open the door (I'm never quite tall enough to do this in a ladylike fashion), I certainly didn't turn round after I'd got off the train, whilst the door was open and lots of people were getting off behind me, to shut the window... sorry

There is a knack to it, but you can open the window, lean out, and then flick the window up at the same time as opening the door without having to pause or break your stride.  You sort of flick it up as part of the same action as glancing over your shoulder to see if their is anyone behind you waiting to get off.