Rumour - First class to be eliminated

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[devon_metro]

Now why SWT^▸ (South West Trains) cannot allow you to get off from the FC^▸ (First Class, or Fat Controller, or Football Club, depending on context) section i'll never know... you can on most of their other stock... just not 158/159's

Have you ever tried it.  Recently I was on one and at the station some tourists (who could not read English) managed it OK.  As that would be an emergency exit I should imagine that you actually can get off that way it's just we are so well behaved we obey the signs !

When the driver is keyed in the Vestibule door is disabled, I believe the internal door open buttons are live too - ie can over ride the door locking.

When the driver keys out at Waterloo, the door is opened.

[paul7575]

The door open button in the passenger compartment is disabled when that end's cab is in use, the emergency exit display above the door comes on, and outside the train there is a 'door out of use' message displayed.

You'll then see that if the guard or trolley dolly needs to get into the vestibule, they have to use a carriage key above the door. But from within the vestibule, the door control works normally.

For emergency egress passengers can use an emergency button in a break glass box, like a fire alarm call button, mounted adjacent to the normal button. 

As said elsewhere, it all happens automatically when the driver is keyed on at that cab, which is why the door becomes available at Waterloo. I expect the idea that it is a restriction for First is that the trains, especially 159s are nearly always that they round.

Paul

[Mookiemoo]

What units are these?

The white things that mainly run from reading dont have any doors out of first and the occasional bluer thiings also dont have doors out of first

Note - I really am not a train spotter I just have travelled on FGW^▸ (First Great Western) stock for too many years not to have absorbed some of it

[Timmer]

What units are these?

The white things that mainly run from reading dont have any doors out of first and the occasional bluer thiings also dont have doors out of first

Note - I really am not a train spotter I just have travelled on FGW^▸ (First Great Western) stock for too many years not to have absorbed some of it

Class 159 (similar to a 158) operate in SWT^▸ (South West Trains) land between London-Salisbury-Exeter/Bristol.
http://www.freefoto.com/images/23/31/23_31_6---South-West-Trains-Class-159--Axminster-Railway-Station_web.jpg?&amp%3Bk=South+West+Trains+Class+159%2C+Axminster+Railway+Station

First class interior:
http://www.jddiamond.net/USERIMAGES/159_Interior_159104_031207_JPG(1).jpg

[thetrout]

I think Paul7755 has summed it up nicely there...

The door is locked when the driver is driving the DMCL part of the train... But when the roles are reversed, that door does work...

My only slight issue with this is that when your on that 22:38 on a Friday Night, entering and exiting First Class does attract alot of unwanted attention... The Eyebrow Raising I could put up with... The comments aren't so fun...!