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« on: August 26, 2009, 02:59:43 » |
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From the BBC» : Network Rail is due to announce its preferred route for a new high speed railway line linking London to the north of England and possibly Scotland.
There is speculation that the company which runs Britain's rail infrastructure will favour building the new line up the country's west coast.
This could mean rail journey times between London and Glasgow taking as little as two and a half hours.
However, any final decision will be made by the government.
That could depend heavily on how much it costs, said the BBC's transport correspondent, Richard Scott.
The proposed new line would become the country's second high speed rail link after the line which runs from London St Pancras to the Channel Tunnel, used primarily by Eurostar services.
Network Rail says the new line is required to ease the pressure on Britain's railways. It says passenger numbers have rocketed by 40% over the past decade, and that by 2024 many existing lines will be at full capacity.
Trains on any new line could travel at speeds of more than 180 miles per hour.
However, if it is built along the west coast via Birmingham and Manchester, it would mean cities like Sheffield, Leeds and Newcastle missing out.
Network Rail's announcement is due at 0945 BST.
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RailCornwall
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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2009, 10:24:27 » |
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The programme has been announced ... www.networkrail.co.uk/newlinesIt envisages a route from Central London to BOTH Glasgow and Edinburgh via a western route through Preston with spurs off to Heathrow, Birmingham, Warrington/Liverpool and Manchester. |
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Tim
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2009, 11:49:03 » |
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I am pleased to see that the main route north isn't being diverted via LHR thereby adding 15 minutes to the journy of folk who don't want to go anywhere near an airport. Serving LHR by a spur might also make it easier to get the air industry to pay for some of that bit (as a condition of teh third runway?).
Still raises the question of where the LHR spur will cross the GWML▸ and whether there will be interchange?
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Henry
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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2009, 17:57:26 » |
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JayMac
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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2009, 21:09:17 » |
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Why not start by cutting those extortionate bonuses? |
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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2009, 09:15:09 » |
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Why not start by cutting those extortionate bonuses? What extortionate bonus the ^745 that most of us got for improving reliability to 90% There are a lot of templated positions in maintenance that are vacant, in projects many of the agency staff have gone |
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Starship just experienced what we call a rapid unscheduled disassembly, or a RUD, during ascent,”
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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2009, 11:09:26 » |
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It's ironic that after announcing HS2▸ Networkrail also announced 1600? redundancies!
Can't see how they can plan and implement HS2, GWML▸ electrification etc. in a reasonable timescale if they are cutting back staff so drastically.
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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2009, 15:45:55 » |
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It's ironic that after announcing HS2▸ Networkrail also announced 1600? redundancies!
Can't see how they can plan and implement HS2, GWML▸ electrification etc. in a reasonable timescale if they are cutting back staff so drastically.
Two distinct halves of the same company maintenance, track renewals, soon to include minor infrastructure renewals is part of "Assets" and GWML electrification HS2 Crossrail Thameslink major renewals etc is part of Investments, there is a(nother) reorg due which will see reshaping of the company |
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Starship just experienced what we call a rapid unscheduled disassembly, or a RUD, during ascent,”
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paul7575
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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2009, 17:54:35 » |
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It's ironic that after announcing HS2▸ Networkrail also announced 1600? redundancies!
Can't see how they can plan and implement HS2, GWML▸ electrification etc. in a reasonable timescale if they are cutting back staff so drastically.
They won't build HS2. From the synopsis report Q&A page: Q - Who will build it? A - Not Network Rail but perhaps a similar consortium as that which came together to build HS1▸ ." Paul |
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JayMac
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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2009, 18:39:19 » |
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Why not start by cutting those extortionate bonuses? What extortionate bonus the ^745 that most of us got for improving reliability to 90% There are a lot of templated positions in maintenance that are vacant, in projects many of the agency staff have gone Sorry ET, I was refering to Coucher and his cronies at NR» HQ▸ . |
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"A clear conscience laughs at a false accusation."
"Treat everyone the same until you find out they're an idiot."
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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2009, 15:34:36 » |
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I was amused by thelondonpaper's graphics department's interpretation of the route of the line. It appears to take a left lurch from Manchester to Liverpool before splittling into two for the final third of the route after Preston. One spur follows the rough route of the WCML▸ to Glasgow, with the Edinburgh route tackling some very challenging terrain en-route to Edinburgh. No wonder it's gonna cost so much...   |
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To view my GWML▸ Electrification cab video 'before and after' video comparison, as well as other videos of the new layout at Reading and 'before and after' comparisons of the Cotswold Line Redoubling scheme, see: http://www.dailymotion.com/user/IndustryInsider/ |
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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2009, 23:32:41 » |
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I'd rather places like Birmingham were not on a branch.
Not everyone goes to London. There are regular flights from Birmingham to Glasgow, Edinburgh etc which need to be replaced.
Having New Street to Manchester in 40 minutes would cut huge amounts of traffic off the M6 ending the need for the M6 Toll extension.
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Hopefully having Heathrow on a branch will END the idea of a "Heathrow Hub", which will add 5 mins onto GWML▸ services. We will have Crossrail, the Tube, Airtrack and the Hthrw Exprss to get people from London to the terminals. The spur suggested by NR» is a far better idea.
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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2009, 23:47:28 » |
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just out of interest what would happen requarding stockport or ' la northen bottleneck!'' would they route it via heald grean on the style line?
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