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« on: August 25, 2024, 00:44:01 »

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SpaceX will return stranded astronauts next year

Two Nasa astronauts who have been stuck in space for over two months will return to Earth in February 2025 with SpaceX.

Nasa said the Boeing Starliner spacecraft the astronauts Sunita Williams and Barry Wilmore had travelled to International Space Station (ISS) on would return to Earth "un-crewed".  The pair took off on what was planned to be an eight-day mission on 5 June but will now spend around eight months in orbit.

The Starliner experienced problems on its way to the ISS, including leaks of helium, which pushes fuel into the propulsion system. Several thrusters also did not work properly.

Boeing and SpaceX were both awarded billion-dollar contracts by Nasa to provide commercial space flights for its astronauts. Boeing’s was worth $4.2bn (£3.18bn) while SpaceX, which was founded by billionaire Elon Musk, got $2.6bn.

SpaceX has so far sent nine crewed flights to space for Nasa, as well as some commercial missions, but this was Boeing’s first attempt at a crewed mission.

Engineers at Boeing and Nasa have spent months trying to understand the technical issues with the Starliner craft.  They have been carrying out tests and gathering data, both in space and back on the Earth. Their hope was to pin down the root of the problems and find a way to return the astronauts home safely on Starliner.

Speaking at a press conference on Saturday, Nasa Administrator Bill Nelson said Boeing has been working closely with Nasa to understand what improvements need to be made to the spacecraft.  "Space flight is a risk, even at its safest and even at its most routine, and a test flight, by nature, is neither safe nor routine," he said. "Our core value is safety and it is our north star."

The decision has been made to extend the pair's stay on the ISS until February 2025 so they can return on a SpaceX Crew Dragon spacecraft.  The extra time allows SpaceX to launch its next vehicle, with lift-off scheduled for the end of September.

It was supposed to have four astronauts on board, but will instead travel to the space station with two. This leaves room for Mr Wilmore and Ms Williams to join them in the vehicle to return to Earth at the end of its planned mission next February.

Nasa has said both astronauts had previously completed two long-duration stays in space and understood the risks of the test flight, including being aboard the station longer than planned.

The organisation said Mr Wilmore, 61, and Ms Williams, 58, both "fully" supported the plans for their return and would spend the next few months carrying out scientific work, space maintenance and possibly doing some "spacewalks".

Boeing’s Starliner had already been delayed for several years because of setbacks in the spacecraft's development. Previous un-crewed flights also suffered technical problems.

In a statement, Boeing said it continued to focus "on the safety of the crew and spacecraft".  "We are executing the mission as determined by Nasa, and we are preparing for a safe and successful un-crewed return," it added.


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Nasa has said both astronauts had previously completed two long-duration stays in space and understood the risks of the test flight, including being aboard the station longer than planned.


There you are, then: next time you're standing around at a station for an hour or so, count yourself lucky!  Grin

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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.

"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner."  Discuss.
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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2024, 08:14:43 »

Do astronauts/Mission control have Sunday as part of the working week?

If not, may have to consider their date of return carefully!
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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2024, 23:31:02 »

It gets even better - or worse. Roll Eyes  They're still stranded up there, on the station!

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Nasa astronauts Butch and Suni's homecoming delayed again



Nasa says that the astronauts stuck on the International Space Station will have to wait even longer to get home.

Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams were due to be back after just a week when they blasted off in June.  Their stay was extended to February next year because of technical issues with the experimental spacecraft, Starliner, built by Boeing.

Now - following a delay in launching a new capsule to the ISS - the pair won't be back until late March or possibly April.  Nasa said the delay posed no risk to the astronauts.

In a statement Nasa stated: "The International Space Station recently received two resupply flights in November and is well-stocked with everything the crew needs, including food, water, clothing, and oxygen. The resupply spacecraft also carried special items for the crew to celebrate the holidays aboard the orbital platform."

Most space station missions last six months, with a few reaching a full year. So the extension to Butch and Suni's already overdue stay in space should not be a problem, according to Dr Simeon Barber, from the Open University.

"I'm sure that they are already disappointed that they were going to miss Christmas back home with the folks. But this is only another two months on an already quite long mission, and I'm sure if you ask them, I'm sure they would tell you that the space station is where they love to be," he said.

A new crew needs to launch before Wilmore and Williams can return and the next mission has been delayed by more than a month, according to the space agency.

Nasa's next crew of four for the ISS was supposed to have been launched in February 2025. The capsule carrying that crew was due to be the one bringing Butch and Sunni home, as well as NASA astronauts Nick Hague and Roscosmos cosmonaut Aleksandr Gorbunov as part of the normal crew rotation.

But there has been a delay by the private sector firm SpaceX in preparing a brand-new Dragon capsule for the mission. That is now scheduled for flight readiness no earlier than late March.

Nasa said it considered using a different SpaceX capsule to fly up the replacement crew to keep the flights on schedule.  But it has now decided the best option is to wait for the new capsule to transport the next crew.


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« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2024, 20:30:38 »

I hope they are still on friendly terms!
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« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2024, 20:56:02 »

I hope they are still on friendly terms!
Bit tough if they aren’t.
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« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2024, 21:18:20 »

Apparently, they get on very well - and are both happy to continue with ongoing scientific experiments and apparently interminable data gathering.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2024, 18:53:56 »

Another update, from the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page): https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cdr0e143j1jo  Smiley

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