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Author Topic: Train derails and crashes into concrete barrier near Newcastle depot  (Read 3142 times)
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« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2022, 14:18:36 »

The Neville Hill derailment made me think: 'OK, low speed impact, but that Azuma (Brand name for Class 80x trains on LNER), its carriages and couplings really haven't made a good fist of staying in line very well, the couplings don't seem to adequately constrain lateral movement of carriages with respect to each other and the second, third and fourth carriages each ended up with a wheelset derailed.'

It made me hope that this behaviour isn't replicated the day one of these trains running at high speed receives a check of similar force as a result of a more trivial impact, as it's generally a good thing if carriages do not derail, and a good thing that should they do so, everything stays reasonably in line - especially on a route with electrification masts. (and was it Hatfield that caused people to ask 'Could electrification masts be designed to be less aggressive should they be impacted?)

And then this. Do Northern's variant have similar couplings?  Very different cause but again that last carriage has become remarkably misaligned with the rest of the train.

The Neville Hill RAIB (Rail Accident Investigation Branch) report is here: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/935941/R132020_201118_Neville_Hill.pdf

One of the recommendations being:

LNER» (London North Eastern Railway - about), with support from Hitachi, should assess the risk associated with derailment of an IET (Intercity Express Train) following collision at low speeds, and take any necessary actions to demonstrate an acceptable risk. It should take into account the likelihood of occurrence of a derailment...

I wonder if that study has concluded, what its findings might have been and whether they've been made public.

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« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2022, 14:31:50 »

Transpennine Express, not Northern.
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« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2022, 18:34:14 »

It’s apparently been lifted back onto the tracks today using a couple of those big Kirow rail cranes.  Pictures in railukforums.

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