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« on: June 17, 2021, 06:23:37 »

being featured on BBC1 breakfast news LIVE on Thursday 17 June(thats today)
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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2021, 08:59:06 »

The train can be followed here https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:S00619/2021-06-17/detailed#allox_id=0

Although I note it is timed at 3hr 53 min so it needs to arrive early as the Northbound record is 3hr 52min 40 sec.

The current record was set by APT (Advanced Passenger Train)-P 37 years ago.

Incidentally the Southbound record is 3hr 55 min, which is odd because surely it is downhill from Glasgow to London  Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2021, 10:32:54 »

According to the MD of Avanti (current West Coast operator)'s owners, “This record attempt shows how effectively rail can deliver cross-Border connectivity.”   I'm not sure how much a one-off stunt shows this but it could well be latched onto by anti-HS2 (The next High Speed line(s)) campaigners as further proof that a new High Speed line isn't needed.
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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2021, 11:08:06 »

According to the MD of Avanti (current West Coast operator)'s owners, “This record attempt shows how effectively rail can deliver cross-Border connectivity.”   I'm not sure how much a one-off stunt shows this but it could well be latched onto by anti-HS2 (The next High Speed line(s)) campaigners as further proof that a new High Speed line isn't needed.

Double edged sword ... current fastest scheduled train (today) is 4 hours and 39 minutes, with 9 stops. It includes 14 minutes of engineering and pathing allowance, 2 minutes of which are in the final Motherwell to Glasgow Central leg
18:30  London Euston
20:14  Warrington Bank Quay
20:25  Wigan North Western
20:41  Preston (Lancs)
20:55  Lancaster
21:10  Oxenholme Lake District
21:35  Penrith
21:50  Carlisle
22:09  Lockerbie
22:53  Motherwell
23:09  Glasgow Central

A proof-of-concept sub - 4 hour run (4 hours 15 minutes with Crewe, Preston and Carlisle stops) is perhaps useful when looking to update services to offer a more appropriate alternative to flying. But having said that, the trips I have made on the London to Glasgow expresses are notable by how few people are making the full journey; is that because theyre's not the whole-journey traffic or because it's not serviced properly?
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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2021, 12:06:04 »

If anyone wished to see how it's getting on.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:S00619/2021-06-17/detailed#allox_id=0
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« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2021, 14:43:03 »

Apparently missed the record by 21 seconds.
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« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2021, 15:03:34 »

On time arrival if not quite a record - and in between all the normal service trains.  Sub 4 hours London to Glasgow ain't bad.  Compares to 7 hours 16 minutes drive (according to Google).   Flight time stated as 1 hour 23 minutes ... realistically at least two hours from entering one airport to leaving the other, then you need to consider total journey and price.

RTT» (Real Time Trains - website) shows the same schedule for next week too. Are they having another go?
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« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2021, 21:04:10 »

117 miles in the first hour is not bad going!
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