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Question: It looks like the new body to administer rail will be called 'Great British Railways'. What do members think of this name?  (Voting closed: June 01, 2021, 13:18:45)
I think it's a great name! - 1 (3.7%)
I don't care what they call it as long as it improves things - 11 (40.7%)
It sounds like a 19th Century name for a 21st Century railway - 15 (55.6%)
Total Voters: 27

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« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2021, 22:50:23 »
Divisions ...

Great Western Railway
Great Northern Railway
Great Eastern Railway
Great Southern Railway
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Great Little Trains of Wales
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« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2021, 09:05:44 »
The Conservative-Brexit-UKIP parties and associated media have done such a thorough job in appropriating the expressions Great Britain/Great British, with all the deliberate play on the meaning of 'great', that these expressions have been reduced to right-wing slogans for me now. 'British', neutral and apolitical without the great, is fine.
 
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« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2021, 09:21:55 »
Quote from: Andy on May 18, 2021, 09:05:44
The Conservative-Brexit-UKIP parties and associated media have done such a thorough job in appropriating the expressions Great Britain/Great British, with all the deliberate play on the meaning of 'great', that these expressions have been reduced to right-wing slogans for me now. 'British', neutral and apolitical without the great, is fine.
 
Yes AIUI▸ (as I understand it) Great Britain originally meant including Scotland. 
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« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2021, 09:34:49 »
Quote from: ellendune on May 18, 2021, 09:21:55
Quote from: Andy on May 18, 2021, 09:05:44
The Conservative-Brexit-UKIP parties and associated media have done such a thorough job in appropriating the expressions Great Britain/Great British, with all the deliberate play on the meaning of 'great', that these expressions have been reduced to right-wing slogans for me now. 'British', neutral and apolitical without the great, is fine.
 
Yes AIUI▸ (as I understand it) Great Britain originally meant including Scotland. 

There's a serious rail-related point there of course - If the new Network Rail-created and controlled SRA» (Strategic Rail Authority - about) Mark 2 puppet Great British Railways is responsible for dishing out concessions, and can intervene to "change timetables and even out services", will they be able to do this with ScotRail and Transport for Wales? After all, both Scotland and Wales are still allegedly part of "Great Britain".

And if "Great British Railways" wont be able to intervene in that way, then shouldn't a name variant of "English" be used instead?
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« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2021, 10:23:32 »
Quote from: Lee on May 18, 2021, 09:34:49
Quote from: ellendune on May 18, 2021, 09:21:55
Quote from: Andy on May 18, 2021, 09:05:44
The Conservative-Brexit-UKIP parties and associated media have done such a thorough job in appropriating the expressions Great Britain/Great British, with all the deliberate play on the meaning of 'great', that these expressions have been reduced to right-wing slogans for me now. 'British', neutral and apolitical without the great, is fine.
 
Yes AIUI▸ (as I understand it) Great Britain originally meant including Scotland. 

There's a serious rail-related point there of course - If the new Network Rail-created and controlled SRA» (Strategic Rail Authority - about) Mark 2 puppet Great British Railways is responsible for dishing out concessions, and can intervene to "change timetables and even out services", will they be able to do this with ScotRail and Transport for Wales? After all, both Scotland and Wales are still allegedly part of "Great Britain".

And if "Great British Railways" wont be able to intervene in that way, then shouldn't a name variant of "English" be used instead?

And if it doesn't cover services devolved to London or other conurbations?
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« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2021, 10:37:51 »
I feel Great or Greater London Railways would be more appropriate if Scotland and Wales aren’t included,, as that’s the only place in England according to the government and media.
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« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2021, 22:58:26 »
View from Daily Mail

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British Rail is back... almost: Biggest shake-up of train network for three decades will see complex franchise system axed... and fares get cheaper
* Great British Railways will replace Network Rail to operate 20,000 miles of rail
* It will have powers to set most fares and timetables and issue contracts
* Grant Shapps said passengers had been failed by 'years of fragmentation'
* The reforms include flexible season tickets that will go on sale next month
* They will allow commuters to travel for eight days over a 28-day periods

Press release at ... http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=20846.msg306304#msg306304
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« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2021, 23:04:43 »
Welcome back great BRITISH RAILways.

Merge of topics aproaching (on platform 0)?
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« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2021, 23:08:46 »
Quote from: MVR S&T▸ (Signalling and Telegraph) on May 19, 2021, 23:04:43
Welcome back great BRITISH RAILways.

Merge of topics aproaching (on platform 0)?

Yeah ... I expect so  Grin
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« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2021, 23:14:34 »
Quote from: grahame on May 19, 2021, 23:08:46
Quote from: MVR S&T▸ (Signalling and Telegraph) on May 19, 2021, 23:04:43
Welcome back great BRITISH RAILways.

Merge of topics aproaching (on platform 0)?

Yeah ... I expect so  Grin

... actually no. because this topic includes a poll.   I am locking this topic and inviting onward comment at:
http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=20846.msg306304#msg306304
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