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Author Topic: Network Rail draws up list of 'no regret' electrification schemes  (Read 5061 times)
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« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2020, 08:29:50 »

Elsewhere:
Stowmarket to Peterborough across the Fens via Ely - to allow electric ECML (East Coast Main Line) to Felixstowe containers to avoid the congested North London Line.
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« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2020, 15:58:53 »

Not knowing what DoT means by "shovel ready", but having experience in other sectors, I think "shovel ready" means " Start April". In that case I would have thought this would only include recently cancelled plans otherwise well advanced, such as Chippenham- Bristol TM (Train Manager, or possibly Ticket Machine, depending on context), Didcot-Oxford and the Midland Mainline. I I would guess that anything else  would be unlikely to start quickly given the long  planning timeline.
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« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2020, 18:05:56 »

Not knowing what DoT means by "shovel ready", but having experience in other sectors, I think "shovel ready" means " Start April". In that case I would have thought this would only include recently cancelled plans otherwise well advanced, such as Chippenham- Bristol TM (Train Manager, or possibly Ticket Machine, depending on context), Didcot-Oxford and the Midland Mainline. I I would guess that anything else  would be unlikely to start quickly given the long  planning timeline.

Shovel ready means the design is complete and the materials and to hand or readily available.   
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« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2020, 18:37:32 »

Dear Sirs,

I?m not familiar with this newfangled use of the expression ?no regret?.  When did this become usual?

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« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2020, 18:53:05 »

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Shovel ready means the design is complete and the materials and to hand or readily available.

Unless you are Boris Johnson, when it is a carelessly used phrase plucked out of the air to describe any infrastructure or construction project (including new housing) you are vaguely promising to deliver without having bothered to find out when it might happen, what needs to be done to enable it to start or how much it might cost.
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« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2020, 19:46:04 »

Dear Sirs,

I?m not familiar with this newfangled use of the expression ?no regret?.  When did this become usual?

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A Huh Pensioner





That is a very good question, and I am glad you asked.

When you think outside the box, it's a no-brainer. Having peeled the onion utilizing a desk-based coalface analysis (leveraging available technologies), I was enabled to climb the strategic staircase and look under the bonnet to visualize a helicopter view of the phrastic intent of 'no regret'.

It means 'low-hanging fruit'.
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« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2020, 20:19:22 »

I trust you wrote leverage while thinking it was pronounced with a ?double V?...   Grin

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« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2020, 21:10:02 »

Dear Sirs,

I?m not familiar with this newfangled use of the expression ?no regret?.  When did this become usual?

Yours sincerely,

A Huh Pensioner





That is a very good question, and I am glad you asked.

When you think outside the box, it's a no-brainer. Having peeled the onion utilizing a desk-based coalface analysis (leveraging available technologies), I was enabled to climb the strategic staircase and look under the bonnet to visualize a helicopter view of the phrastic intent of 'no regret'.

It means 'low-hanging fruit'.

You may well, be right, but I still think you should have run it up flagpole to see who salutes.
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« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2020, 01:28:02 »

These 2 Bristol Temple Meads to Chippenham, Bristol Temple Meads to Bristol Parkway would be close to "shovel ready" now as most of the design work will have been completed under GWEP (Great Western Electrification Program)

And ... with a rolling program, while the first projects are being done (shovelled) the rolling program pipeline of getting the next projects shovel ready can proceed in parallel.  So that when trains are running through Bath on electricity, the team that did the fin work of implementing it have moved on to implementing electrification through Sea Mill, and the team that prepared the project are preparing Cam and Dursley ...
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