"At least 17 dead" In train drerailment Taiwan

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broadgage

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"At least 17 dead" In train drerailment Taiwan

« on: October 21, 2018, 12:56:33 »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-45932991

Very sad. No details about the cause as yet. Many vehicles derailed, but they look largely intact suggesting a relatively modest speed.


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It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU^▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.

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Re: "At least 17 dead" In train drerailment Taiwan

« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2018, 13:56:28 »

It's noticeable that the leading vehicle has overturned on the outside of a curve.


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Re: "At least 17 dead" In train drerailment Taiwan

« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2018, 14:11:38 »

Quote from: bignosemac on October 21, 2018, 13:56:28

It's noticeable that the leading vehicle has overturned on the outside of a curve.

True, though that tells us nothing about why it came off, only that it was on a curve at the time. Any derailment at speed on a curve, whatever the cause, is almost certain to produce that effect.


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Re: "At least 17 dead" In train drerailment Taiwan

« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2018, 15:15:04 »

Now reported that excess speed was a factor in the derailment.


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Re: "At least 17 dead" In train drerailment Taiwan

« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2018, 17:07:55 »

Quote from: bignosemac on October 23, 2018, 15:15:04

Now reported that excess speed was a factor in the derailment.

AIUI^▸ , there was a c40mph curve on a c90mph route. The local equivalent of ATC^▸ /TPWS^▸ had been switched out as faulty, without failing the train. There may not have been effective approach control signalling, as would apply in the UK^▸ .

Sometimes I think that NR^» /DfT^» /GWR^▸ etc are wonderful.....

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Re: "At least 17 dead" In train drerailment Taiwan

« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2018, 17:58:10 »

...err. where in the UK^▸ do we have approach control signalling for a curve in plain line?


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Re: "At least 17 dead" In train drerailment Taiwan

« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2018, 18:42:01 »

I thought that we had it at Reading before the rebuild on the down main (125) into 4 (50). We were never slowed when it was 80.

Apologies if I'm mistaken.

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