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« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2018, 07:21:23 »
According to my local BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) South West "Spotlight" news programme (24th July) the government has abandoned any idea of splitting the GWR▸ (Great Western Railway) franchise in the far south west. It also said that that there would be no cuts now to Cross Country services in the SW where services to Torbay were under threat.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0bbxnvn/spotlight-late-news-24072018
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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2018, 07:39:18 »
Thanks for the update - the subject is being discussed here - http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=19039.msg242616#msg242616
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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2018, 07:42:33 »
Quote from: woody on July 25, 2018, 07:21:23
According to my local BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) South West "Spotlight" news programme (24th July) the government has abandoned any idea of splitting the GWR▸ (Great Western Railway) franchise in the far south west. It also said that that there would be no cuts now to Cross Country services in the SW where services to Torbay were under threat.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0bbxnvn/spotlight-late-news-24072018

Indeed.  Huge relief to most, disappointment for a very few.

Also on thread at (thanks Bobm - see you and I both making the same comment)
http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=19039.msg242616#msg242616

I will lock this thread so we continue the discussion in that single place. but worth leaving here as it's an important subject line flag - sort of like a link farm!  (See you locked it too, Bobm  Wink )
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« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2018, 11:22:00 »
The BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) Spotlight piece referred to by member woody in Across the West is available here.

Contains a short clip of the Secretary of State's "announcement" and some of the background.
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« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2018, 14:41:32 »
Quote from: bobm on July 25, 2018, 11:22:00
The BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) Spotlight piece referred to by member woody in Across the West is available here.

Contains a short clip of the Secretary of State's "announcement" and some of the background.

Also very interesting that the Secretary of State has "absolutely no intention of reducing services to the South West" under the Cross Country Franchise.  So that's good news for Paignton, Bath and Newquay, right?
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« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2018, 15:18:05 »
An almost universally unpopular idea.  Which makes the fact the DfT» (Department for Transport - about) didn’t opt for it somewhat surprising.
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« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2018, 16:44:40 »
Having listened to the full recording of the Commons Transport Committee, I felt that one interpretation was that there would be an increased service to the South West BUT I am not sure he specified Cross Country was operating it.
It could be that GWR▸ (Great Western Railway) would provide the service connecting out of the Cross Country trains.
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« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2018, 17:09:43 »
The 2015 GWR▸ (Great Western Railway) franchise refers to the Devon and Cornwall GWR mainline service being 2 tph except in those early and late hours where certain extended services eg to/from Penzance would remain operated by XC▸ (Cross Country Trains (franchise)).  In other words the overall service offer was a combined effort.

Then the very latest XC consultation (which is still ongoing) was proposing removal of  those off pattern XC services but they’d have been replaced by the local TOC▸ (Train Operating Company), in the case of Penzance:
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West of Plymouth to Penzance: Great Western Railway (GWR) are enhancing service provision by introducing two trains per hour between Plymouth and Penzance from December 2018. This enhancement gives passengers west of Plymouth better journeys and connections. Cross Country services are early in the day eastbound and at the end of the day westbound, and some could potentially be covered by a longer operating day by GWR. (Note that we are not proposing any changes to the Summer Saturday-only services to Newquay).

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/714761/cross-country-passenger-rail-franchise-public-consultation.pdf

In the south they were proposing cutting back from Bournemouth to Southampton as SWR» (South Western Railway - about) were adding more trains to Bournemouth.  Hopefully that’s been binned as well.
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« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2018, 14:58:40 »
Swindon Advertiser - first with the news..... http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/16402303.railway-franchise-will-remain-intact/
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