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« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2015, 20:31:01 »

No worries with your very interesting post, SandTEngineer.  Grin

However, I do have some issues with Network Rail apparently trying to rewrite their corporate excuses in that report.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2015, 21:49:50 »

No worries with your very interesting post, SandTEngineer.  Grin

However, I do have some issues with Network Rail apparently trying to rewrite their corporate excuses in that report.  Roll Eyes

Don't slate them to hard, they (the Board) have managed to get a report out on the incidents into the public domain in a matter of days what other "public" undertaking achieves that, they could have spent weeks if not months reviewing it to death before sneaking it out.  Especially given that last week many of the contractors and NR» (Network Rail - home page) staff were taking TOIL for working Christmas

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« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2015, 22:34:05 »

The UK (United Kingdom) Parliament website has coverage of Mark Carne and Robin Gisby giving evidence to the Commons Select Committee, earlier today.

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This is a one-off evidence session which considered the over-running engineering works at King^s Cross and Paddington on the weekend of 27/28 December. The Committee took evidence from Network Rail, and then from the rail regulator, the Office of Rail Regulation.

Parliament TV: Railway network disruption over Christmas
Inquiry: Railway network disruption over Christmas
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Wednesday 14 January 2015, Thatcher Room, Portcullis House

At 2.05pm
Mark Carne, Chief Executive, Network Rail
Robin Gisby, Managing Director, Network Operations, Network Rail

At 2.50pm
Richard Price, Chief Executive, Office of Rail Regulation
Joanna Whittington, Director, Railway Markets and Economics, Office of Rail Regulation

Likely topics for discussion include:
The causes for the over-running engineering works at King^s Cross and Paddington;
the contingency planning for these overruns, and the use of Finsbury Park station in place of King^s Cross;
the level of information and support offered to passengers; and
the Office of Rail Regulation^s review into the overrunning engineering works.

The session was originally scheduled for 7 January, but was rearranged following a request from Network Rail, to allow the session to be informed by the report commissioned by Mark Carne from Dr Francis Paonessa, Network Rail infrastructure projects director. Dr Paonessa^s report, which is due to be published on Friday, will cover the sequence of events and associated decision making that led to the problems experienced, and make recommendations on immediate steps to be taken by Network Rail to improve delivery of engineering works.
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« Reply #33 on: February 12, 2015, 19:44:01 »

The ORR» (Office of Rail and Road formerly Office of Rail Regulation - about) published their investigation report today, and issued this press release:
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The rail industry must place passengers at the heart of enhanced contingency planning for overrunning engineering works, the rail regulator today concluded following its investigation into overruns at King's Cross and Paddington in December 2014.

The Office of Rail Regulation (ORR) launched an investigation after more than 115,000 passengers were affected by overrunning engineering works when travelling into or out of King's Cross and Paddington stations between 27 and 28 December 2014. ORR's investigation was aimed at learning lessons with a view to preventing similar disruption happening again. It was informed by direct feedback from passengers, evidence from Passenger Focus, London TravelWatch, Network Rail, and all of the affected train operators.

Network Rail delivered more than 98% of the complex engineering works planned for the Christmas and New Year period on time. However, ORR's detailed analysis showed that there were significant weaknesses in the planning and oversight of the King's Cross and Paddington works, and how communication was managed when overruns occurred. The plans failed to put the impact on passengers at the centre of decision making, and this meant the service passengers received during the course of disruption was not acceptable and led to widespread confusion, frustration, discomfort and anxiety.

Network Rail needs to continue undertaking large-scale engineering projects in order to renew and enhance Britain's railways. The effective planning, management and communication of this work is essential to the delivery of a safe and reliable railway. ORR is setting out requirements that ensure Network Rail, working with train operators, develops clear contingency plans which help passengers if works overrun, and that if needed, the plans are implemented in a timely and effective way:

Improved planning for potential overruns of engineering works. Passengers' needs, welfare and safety at a time of disruption must be at the heart of Network Rail's and train operators' contingency arrangements.
Effective oversight of engineering work possessions and communications. Network Rail should ensure the key decision points for continuing with critical stages of planned works, and implementation of contingency plans are understood by all parties involved.

Network Rail with support from train operators should review arrangements for managing the control of an overrun incident, with a command structure covering all elements of an incident including train planning, station management and communication with passengers.

The impact of an overrun on passengers can in some part be mitigated by accurate and timely information. The industry now has plans in place to further improve passenger information. The train operator plans, including dates for delivery, need to be published so that passengers can be confident that change will be delivered and ORR can monitor against them.

Network Rail is reviewing all contingency plans for works scheduled over Easter and the May 2015 bank holidays. ORR expects Network Rail to have implemented all the recommendations, including those which require work with train operators, in advance of the Christmas 2015 engineering works. The regulator will audit their implementation to make sure the improvements are all in place.

Joanna Whittington, ORR's director railway markets and economics and the investigation lead, said:

"Network Rail has rightly acknowledged it didn't do enough for passengers affected by overrunning engineering works at King's Cross and Paddington this Christmas. While the company generally has a good record for delivering engineering work on time, in this instance passengers were really let down.

"Our investigation found that contingency planning did not fully consider the impact of potential overruns on passengers and that this needs to change. In future, plans will address the impact on passengers as well as engineering and train operation issues. Network Rail cannot achieve this alone, train operators will also need to play their part.

"Network Rail has committed to ensuring all work undertaken this Easter has a contingency plan which is fit for purpose, and to implement all recommendations in time for engineering works planned over Christmas 2015. ORR will audit its progress, to ensure that passengers' needs and safety are central to Network Rail's and train operator contingency arrangements."

I don't think the report is very informative, compared with NR» (Network Rail - home page)'s quite detailed blow-by-blow account of what went wrong. The ORR have essentially agreed with what NR have said, including their admission that they got it seriously wrong.
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« Reply #34 on: February 12, 2015, 22:52:44 »

The report does state that the investigation is not complete and that further investigation is taking place under the H&S (Health and Safety) Act into the 'Safety' issues identified.
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« Reply #35 on: February 12, 2015, 23:59:04 »

The report does state that the investigation is not complete and that further investigation is taking place under the H&S (Health and Safety) Act into the 'Safety' issues identified.

Indeed, and that includes the health and safety of passengers. In fact this report does have rather more to say about what passengers experienced or suffered, and how the ToCs managed the situation - NR» (Network Rail - home page)'s report obviously didn't pass judgement in those areas.
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