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« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2008, 22:27:04 »

You obviously don't read The Times or listen to Radio 4. I suspect many MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post - a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London, depending on context)'s do.
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« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2008, 21:37:07 »

I don't think a few busybodies from Bath have influenced a ^5m decision somehow, it's simply FGWs (First Great Western) poor performance that brought it about! It was after a meeting with the DFT (Department for Transport) of all people!
I expect that DFT were very much behind FGW offering more money in compensation as an indirect way of fining them for poor performance on top of what they would have had to pay out anyway under the passengers charter. I can't honestly see that FGW came up with this idea all by themselves, after all what privately owned company gives away money unless they either have to or its in the own interest to do so?

Where I would say that MTLS (More Train Less Strain) have played a small part would be that they have kept the peformance of FGW in the media spotlight which has got it noticed by a great deal of people, not just in the West Country but all over the country. Not a day seems to go by now without an article about FGW in some form or other appearing in one of the papers or on TV (Thames Valley).

Exactly. Would DFT have cared two hoots if there hadn't been any bad publicity? And who has driven that publicity?
I hadn't heard of MTLS until I came to this forum! In the far West country we never hear of them?Huh? So it can't be that stronger brand!
I admit I had never heard of them either, we don't have any participants down here.

I agree with Timmer and John R on this one.

While I do accept that many of you in Devon and Cornwall had probably not even heard of MTLS until very recently (that's no way a criticism of you - please hear me out!), they are nevertheless a very potent voice in the Bristol / Bath area, where they originated.  They have tapped into a lot of dissatisfaction on that particular commuter route, and because Bristol and Bath have big populations with their own issues with First Bus as well, MTLS have easily gained a lot of local support.  There are also a lot of MPs (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post - a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London, depending on context) in this area, and they have generally publicly supported the sentiments of their constituents (strange, that?).

As John R and Timmer wrote earlier, scarcely a day goes by up here in Bristol / Bath / Somerset without some comment in the local paper / radio / television about FGW, usually quoting someone from MTLS.  However, MTLS are really still just a local group - as we've seen from the dwindling support they have received for their fare strike from other areas (for example, Oxford) after FGW's offer of increased compensation.  You could argue that MTLS's influence is out of all proportion to the area of their mainstream support - indeed, John R did, and I think he's quite right.  Nevertheless, they have raised these issues, which will probably not go away until the situation improves - to the benefit of both passengers and staff of FGW, I think!

By the way, I am NOT a member of MTLS, I do NOT support any lawbreaking by fare-dodging.  I hope everything goes good-naturedly on Monday; the protesters get to make their point and perhaps FGW get a chance to put their case as well!
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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post - a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London, depending on context) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.

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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2008, 23:37:20 »

You obviously don't read The Times or listen to Radio 4. I suspect many MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post - a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London, depending on context)'s do.
Strangely enough NO!!
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« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2008, 23:53:01 »

Not sure they've got the wireless down in Cornwall yet, John?   Grin Grin Grin
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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post - a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London, depending on context) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.

"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner."  Discuss.
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« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2008, 23:56:35 »

Not sure they've got the wireless down in Cornwall yet, John?   Grin Grin Grin
Devon, but yes, Cornwall doesn't even have electric yet and they still pee in a hole in floor in their garden shed!! (tongue in cheek before anyone accuses me of being anti-Cornish or something) Wink
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« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2008, 00:15:51 »

Likewise: I was born in Plymouth, and I have family in Cornwall.  It's a beautiful county - very scenic.   Wink
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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post - a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London, depending on context) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.

"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner."  Discuss.
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« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2008, 09:57:33 »

If Vacman was in Cornwall, he wouldn't be able to post 1/4 of what he does.

Do you Know how slow Gas Powered PC's are!
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« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2008, 10:22:44 »

If Vacman was in Cornwall, he wouldn't be able to post 1/4 of what he does.

Do you Know how slow Gas Powered PC's are!
Coal burners in Cornwall. lol!!
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« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2008, 11:10:39 »

Coal burner PC's, all that coal dust plays hell with the Hard Drive.

Thats why they use Gas.
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