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« on: October 15, 2024, 17:35:34 »

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St Athan lost its railway station when passenger services ended on the line in 1964. Trains returned in 2005 but the station didn't despite the village growing at a very rapid rate

Sixty years ago the good people of St Athan climbed aboard a train service and went on their way to their destinations. They were the last people to do so. The station shut in 1964 when passenger services were withdrawn and has never returned, despite the line re-opening in 2005.

But the people living there in 2024 think it's about time trains stop there once more, and for good reason. The ward of St Athan saw a population rise of 22% between 2011 and 2021 according to Census data, and local councillor, Cllr Stephen Haines, thinks the population of the village must have doubled over the past decade as houses continue to be built there.
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2024, 12:42:19 »

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St Athan lost its railway station when passenger services ended on the line in 1964. Trains returned in 2005 but the station didn't despite the village growing at a very rapid rate

Sixty years ago the good people of St Athan climbed aboard a train service and went on their way to their destinations. They were the last people to do so. The station shut in 1964 when passenger services were withdrawn and has never returned, despite the line re-opening in 2005.

But the people living there in 2024 think it's about time trains stop there once more, and for good reason. The ward of St Athan saw a population rise of 22% between 2011 and 2021 according to Census data, and local councillor, Cllr Stephen Haines, thinks the population of the village must have doubled over the past decade as houses continue to be built there.

The line needs a half hourly service first. Therescat least 2 stations that need reopening between Barry and bridgend these being:
St Athan
Cowbridge Road (Bridgend)
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2024, 12:49:31 »

The line needs a half hourly service first. Therescat least 2 stations that need reopening between Barry and bridgend these being:
St Athan
Cowbridge Road (Bridgend)

I took a more detailed look at this before I posted without comment yesterday - whilst I have travelled the lone, I have only that as local knowledge, but three things have struck me:

1. The 3 minute turn around in the current timetable at Bridgend which would be compromised by an extra stop.

2. The closeness of St Athan to Llantwit Major

3. The LONG distance from Llantwit to Bridgend which (?) must be one of the longest inter-station gap anywhere on the valley lines.
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2024, 22:50:49 »

The line needs a half hourly service first. Therescat least 2 stations that need reopening between Barry and bridgend these being:
St Athan
Cowbridge Road (Bridgend)

I took a more detailed look at this before I posted without comment yesterday - whilst I have travelled the lone, I have only that as local knowledge, but three things have struck me:

1. The 3 minute turn around in the current timetable at Bridgend which would be compromised by an extra stop.

2. The closeness of St Athan to Llantwit Major

3. The LONG distance from Llantwit to Bridgend which (?) must be one of the longest inter-station gap anywhere on the valley lines.

Bridgend council want a station at Cowbridge road  in Bridgend on the VOG basically where the line passes behind Tescos. The college is being moved closer to the town centre however a lot more housing is being built in that area abd a station there is certainly in demand
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2024, 23:18:11 »

The line needs a half hourly service first. Therescat least 2 stations that need reopening between Barry and bridgend these being:
St Athan
Cowbridge Road (Bridgend)

I took a more detailed look at this before I posted without comment yesterday - whilst I have travelled the lone, I have only that as local knowledge, but three things have struck me:

1. The 3 minute turn around in the current timetable at Bridgend which would be compromised by an extra stop.

2. The closeness of St Athan to Llantwit Major

3. The LONG distance from Llantwit to Bridgend which (?) must be one of the longest inter-station gap anywhere on the valley lines.

The introduction of new trains and the 'final' metro timetable would perhaps address the timing issue.

The recent increase of the service to Rhymney to half-hourly looks like a bit of a temporary solution. 1tph runs non-stop Bargoed-Rhymney, and 1tph makes all the stops. The previous timetable had all train stopping, but 1tph; at peak times approx 3tph ran through, but in one direction only, with the peak trains going in/out of the sidings at RHY, and nothing running in the other direction - I think it was a 2hr gap back to Cardiff in the evening peak. Since going to 2tph all day, the newish passing loop at Tir-phil isn't used, and this will be why only 1tph makes the intermediate stops - without using the loop, the single track section is just too long for 'proper' 2tph. I suspect this is an interim solution so that RHY-BGN can have captive diagrams, as 231s are not yet authorised to BGN, and the mainline crews that work the VoG leg don't yet sign them. (AIUI (as I understand it))

Given the above, I suspect when a more final timetable is implemented, a better timetable using the Tir-phil loop will be introduced as everything on the RHY-BYI/BGN axis will be 756s, so captive diagrams are no longer needed. So at that point maybe longer turnarounds will be possible. Also a timetable optimised for new trains will hopefully be a bit quicker (even if only on the electrified Rhymney leg) and therefore perhaps have more room for the extra stops. And when the VoG goes half-hourly hopefully that improvement would be seen as a reasonable trade-off for any time added by extra stops.

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