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« on: November 07, 2011, 17:30:32 »

does anyone know why the morning peak service on the North Downs line completely fell over this morning? I gave up on Farnborough North in the end and went to Guildford via Farnborough Main and Woking.
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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2011, 20:57:34 »

There were reports of signalling problems affecting SWT (South West Trains) around about Ash - could have been affecting all routes.

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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2011, 21:05:06 »

The delay log for the 0934 ex Redhill has the following entry:
 06:00 - 2V46 : 0531 Gatwick Airport - Rea ding Platforms is at a stand at Redhill, the driver was unab le to draw power, she isolated one of the engines and can no w draw power ok, the driver was asked to get the train into the sidings at Redhill, but the driver is refusing as the he ater is not working . FGW (First Great Western) aware, it is a southern driver on loan to them. Unit Number:- 166214. 5V50 is now going to att ach to 2V46

All a bit teddies out the pram!
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2011, 22:32:29 »

If this is the case, it's absolutely scandalous!! It was a mild morning this morning, (12c when I left the house at 07:00) refusing to move the unit due to "no heater" is utterly unbelievable. It's not like the driver was being asked to do a whole turn without heating.

I hope FGW (First Great Western) management are as mad as I am about this!!!
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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2011, 01:47:37 »

If this is the case, it's absolutely scandalous!! It was a mild morning this morning, (12c when I left the house at 07:00) refusing to move the unit due to "no heater" is utterly unbelievable. It's not like the driver was being asked to do a whole turn without heating.

I hope FGW (First Great Western) management are as mad as I am about this!!!

It was freezing this morning down here, we had quite a thick frost overnight!
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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2011, 13:14:15 »

If this is the case, it's absolutely scandalous!! It was a mild morning this morning, (12c when I left the house at 07:00) refusing to move the unit due to "no heater" is utterly unbelievable. It's not like the driver was being asked to do a whole turn without heating.

I hope FGW (First Great Western) management are as mad as I am about this!!!

I'm sure most people would be pretty cheesed off if they had to work in an office that was 12'c.
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2011, 13:17:22 »

If this is the case, it's absolutely scandalous!! It was a mild morning this morning, (12c when I left the house at 07:00) refusing to move the unit due to "no heater" is utterly unbelievable. It's not like the driver was being asked to do a whole turn without heating.

I hope FGW (First Great Western) management are as mad as I am about this!!!

I'm sure most people would be pretty cheesed off if they had to work in an office that was 12'c.

There is apparently a minimum temperature for working, unless you are employed as an outside worker that covers the UK (United Kingdom), and from memory I was told it is around 16'C or 17'C
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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2011, 13:53:33 »

It's not that the driver was being asked to work in cold conditions for the whole shift, just a shunt into the sidings, would be longer in the cold waiting on a platform waiting for a train to relieve or walking around a depot to start your shift.
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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2011, 14:50:47 »

Not knowing the driver in question, I can't speculate, but I think 99% of drivers would be happy to do a simple shunt to get the train out of the way with a defective cab heater.  There are a small minority (the 1% above) that will deliberately use any excuse to cause as much misery as possible - I've seen some quite pathetic stunts pulled over the years.

Taking a train into service with a heater not working on a cold day is a different matter though.
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« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2011, 17:42:59 »

i agree with you entirely IndustryInsider. It really is pathetic. If the driver has a gripe with management, take it up via the normal channels, don't take it out on the customers.
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2011, 14:30:35 »

Well my service to Newbury never left Reading. overheard the fitter- one engine had no oil and no leak- so no oil was put in their at some point  Wink

Mind you, known services to run on one engine before.
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