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« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2010, 16:30:17 »

I thought the benchmark is 125mph?

No, as the GWML (Great Western Main Line), ECML (East Coast Main Line) and WCML (West Coast Main Line) aren't classified as HSLs. Only HS1 (High Speed line 1 - St Pancras to Channel Tunnel) is.

Despite South Eastern "High Speed" services being timed at, yep you guessed it, 125mph. So much ambition...
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« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2010, 01:50:26 »

I thought the benchmark is 125mph?

No, as the GWML (Great Western Main Line), ECML (East Coast Main Line) and WCML (West Coast Main Line) aren't classified as HSLs. Only HS1 (High Speed line 1 - St Pancras to Channel Tunnel) is.

Not quite as simple as that - even the International Union of Railways (UIC) say there's no definitive definition! Interestingly the UIC (who should know what they're talking about) seem to say that 125mph (200kph) does indeed qualify as a High Speed Line/Train - to quote their website: http://www.uic.org/spip.php?article971

b) High Speed lines shall comprise:

          o Specially built High Speed lines equipped for speeds generally equal to or greater than 250 km/h,
          o Specially upgraded High Speed lines equipped for speeds of the order of 200 km/h,


Now, I would argue that the WCML has been specially upgraded for 200kph running in so much as the route has been equipped with TASS equipment allowing the Pendolino's and Super Voyagers to tilt, though the UIC actually state that HS1 is the only High Speed line in the UK (United Kingdom).
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« Reply #32 on: January 26, 2010, 02:03:00 »

And quite apart from anything else, HSTs (High Speed Train) were designed back in the 1970s and High Speed Train is the name that BR (British Rail(ways)) gave them at the time. I don't know if the UIC definition of "high speed" was current then or not, but regardless of any pedantry, HSTs is what they're called!
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« Reply #33 on: January 26, 2010, 13:16:13 »

but regardless of any pedantry, HSTs (High Speed Train) is what they're called!

That's my point, and how it is relevant to timetable booklets/mini timetables!
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« Reply #34 on: January 26, 2010, 20:45:29 »

Umm...... you did bring up HSTs (High Speed Train) on this thread Btline  Wink
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« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2010, 23:57:46 »

Umm...... you did bring up HSTs (High Speed Train) on this thread Btline  Wink

Yes. And? I brought them up because it is:

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relevant to timetable booklets/mini timetables!

as I say above. What's the problem?
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« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2010, 00:02:53 »

Btline, I've got a project for you... get hold of a dictionary and look up the word "tenuous". Then tell me why I've asked you to look it up  Wink Kiss
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« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2010, 21:54:32 »




Nice bedsheets!  Grin
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« Reply #38 on: January 31, 2010, 02:03:43 »

Btline, I've got a project for you... get hold of a dictionary and look up the word "tenuous". Then tell me why I've asked you to look it up  Wink Kiss

Don't moan at me, moan at the inspector for making that pointless comment!
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« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2010, 00:14:10 »

While putting out the recycling earlier, I disposed of a number of timetables which had expired in December. One in particular caught my eye. It was a folding one, of modest dimensions, for services between Banbury and London operated by a certain saintly operator.

And what did it say across the top, in letters bigger than the company's own logo?

Pocket Timetable.

How could that clever Mr Shooter get it so wrong?
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« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2010, 04:27:22 »

Btline, I've got a project for you... get hold of a dictionary and look up the word "tenuous". Then tell me why I've asked you to look it up  Wink Kiss

Don't moan at me, moan at the inspector for making that pointless comment!

Erm, that would be me... Huh
I have a vague feeling I'm being slandered but I can't quite work out why. Must consult my legal team in the morning... Wink
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