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« on: December 06, 2024, 07:39:45 » |
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Easy enough to work out WHERE these are maps of but WHEN were they published? 1.  2.  3.  4.  5.  6.  7.  |
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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2024, 07:53:19 » |
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7 looks like the most "radical" of the proposals for trimming down the railway network in about 1980.
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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2024, 07:57:55 » |
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7 looks like the most "radical" of the proposals for trimming down the railway network in about 1980.
From 1982 - http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/mirror/DoT_Serpell001.pdf - but astonishingly it was NOT the most radical or the proposals - there is at least one even more dramatic proposal in there. |
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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2024, 08:15:05 » |
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3. 1840.
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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2024, 08:25:24 » |
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I think 4 is 1902. More precisely between 1901 April 24 (the opening of the first part of the Bideford, Westward Ho! and Appledore line, which is shown on the map) and 1903 July 1 (the opening of the Red Wharf branch on Anglesey, which is not shown).
It may be possible to narrow the range even closer!
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2024, 08:43:02 » |
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It may be possible to narrow the range even closer!
Indeed. Note the absence of the Vale of Rheidol railway which is shown on a later map in the same series. |
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2024, 09:53:49 » |
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5 is evidently from about 1920. Its style is that of Emslie's Official RCH maps of London and its Environs, and their 1921 version is almost - but not quite - identical. The only big difference I can see is the removal of the abandoned Central London Railway extension to Brentford. So maybe 1922 or 1923?
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2024, 11:13:51 » |
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6: Between 31-07-1907 when the WCPR opened their Portishead branch and 01-04-1908 when the Avonmouth Light Railway (not shown) opened.
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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2024, 12:10:49 » |
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It may be possible to narrow the range even closer!
Indeed. Note the absence of the Vale of Rheidol railway which is shown on a later map in the same series. VoR apparently opened on 1902 December 22, so you're narrowing it down significantly. |
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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2024, 20:15:34 » |
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2. Was before Birmingham Moor Street was opened on 1st July 1909
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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2024, 20:19:04 » |
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6. Hmmm.  Long Ashton Platform (as featured on that map) existed with that name between 1926 and 1929. I'm not convinced.  |
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2024, 10:17:57 » |
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6. Hmmm. Long Ashton Platform (as featured on that map) existed with that name between 1926 and 1929. I'm not convinced. I concur.... The Hotwells terminus under the Clifton Bridge and its railway were removed only in 1921 and that is missing from the map. |
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2024, 10:32:41 » |
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3: 1846. The Birkenhead railway had just opened but the Lancaster and Carlisle had not yet - just.
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2024, 11:48:56 » |
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2. Was before Birmingham Moor Street was opened on 1st July 1909
actually it was before 1906 when Tyesley station opened and before December 1907 when the direct line to Stratford opened. It was also after camp hill & Balsall Heath changed its name to Camp Hill in 1904. So Between 1904 and 1906. |
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« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2024, 06:05:56 » |
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Here are the answers ... I just failed to note which was to which question.
1902
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1901
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