Bustition beyond Southampton

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Between Southampton Central and Portsmouth Harbour
Planned engineering work will take place between Southampton Central and Portsmouth Harbour from 02:00, Saturday 22 October 2016 to 02:00, Monday 31 October 2016.

Additional Information
Saturday to Friday Trains between Cardiff Central and Portsmouth Harbour / Brighton will be amended with buses replacing trains between Southampton Central and Havant / Portsmouth Harbour. Change at Havant for Southern services to Brighton. GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) train services between Portsmouth Harbour and Brighton will not run.

Last Updated:31/08/2016 11:02

Any idea how it's going, chaps?  Any reports of problems on the "far side" with loadings to Brighton without the GWR services running there, or are they so used to Southern cancellations that a couple of missing 158  journey aren't noticed?

[paul7575]

Just saw your question so I thought I'd add a couple of observations.

The last arrival each night shunted and was berthed in P5 at Central overnight, (the bay behind the country end of the main down platform which is not signalled for passenger use), then forming the first train the next morning.   AFAICT^▸ ('as far as I can tell') from RTT^» (Real Time Trains - website) the SWT^▸ (South West Trains) 444 that would normally berth there overnight was switched to Northam depot for the week.

During the middle of the day, as seen on Tuesday and Wednesday, the GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) departures and arrivals were using the country end of the island platform, P2B or P3B.  Arrivals and departures were at the normal times, i.e. around about xx10, and there were clearly a few passengers for the departing service each time who were in 'automatic mode' and waiting at the A end of platform 4, where the trains normally go from.   Staff appeared to be proactively looking for people in the wrong place, but the trains weren't necessarily held for latecomers appearing at the barriers nearly at departure time expecting to find them at the normal platform.

Following the down train's departure, the recent arrival each time was shunted via one of the loops west of the station to layover in platform 5, with a similar shunt made about 40  mins later to get the train back onto a public platform.

There was a certain amount of confusion just before 1500 on the Tuesday, as an earlier arrival at 1435 ish, the curtailed Gt Malvern to Brighton incoming train was sat at P2B awaiting its ECS^▸ (Empty Coaching Stock) path to Salisbury.     So a few people were approaching it to try and get on, thinking it was going to form the 1510 Cardiff departure, and there was clearly some worried passengers waiting and watching as it departed empty at about 1455, however the unit for the 1510 was also on its way, and arrived into the same platform from the west a few minutes later.

The oddest feature of the temporary workings was that the Great Malvern to Brighton train terminated and then ran empty all the way back to Salisbury to berth in the east sidings there until later in the evening, when it formed a Southampton Central to Bristol service in the path of the train normally originating from Brighton.  Seems odd that there was nowhere nearer to stash a single DMU^▸ (Diesel Multiple Unit) for a few hours between departure and arrival, but I guess driver route knowledge would be part of it...

Paul

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Just saw your question so I thought I'd add a couple of observations.

Paul, many thanks ...  that's a very interesting read.  Sounds like the operation wasn't going too badly.  If anyone did use the buses / head to of from Brighton, I would be interested.

The lack of unit storage as Southampton's interesting.  I recall a 158 being stored at Totton as part of it's diagram in the not-too-distant past, that being a non-electrified siding and the only reason the diagram had to be diesel.  I'm taking it there's plenty or berthing at Salisbury though??