Train GraphicClick on the map to explore geographics
 
I need help
FAQ
Emergency
About .
Travel & transport from BBC stories as at 20:55 10 Jan 2025
 
- Two million discounted tickets up for grabs in rail sale
Read about the forum [here].
Register [here] - it's free.
What do I gain from registering? [here]
 14/01/25 - Rail Sale starts
24/01/25 - Westbury Station reopens
24/01/25 - LTP4 Wilts / Consultation end
24/01/25 - Bristol Rail Campaign AGM 2025

On this day
10th Jan (1863)
Metropolitain line opened from Paddington (link)

Train RunningCancelled
19:04 Great Malvern to London Paddington
19:36 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill
20:23 London Paddington to Oxford
20:50 St Erth to St Ives
21:05 St Ives to St Erth
22:01 Oxford to London Paddington
23:03 Salisbury to Portsmouth & Southsea
23:14 London Paddington to Oxford
Short Run
17:03 London Paddington to Penzance
19:04 Paignton to London Paddington
19:35 Exeter St Davids to London Paddington
20:59 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington
22:50 Salisbury to Portsmouth Harbour
PollsThere are no open or recent polls
Abbreviation pageAcronymns and abbreviations
Stn ComparatorStation Comparator
Rail newsNews Now - live rail news feed
Site Style 1 2 3 4
Next departures • Bristol Temple MeadsBath SpaChippenhamSwindonDidcot ParkwayReadingLondon PaddingtonMelksham
Exeter St DavidsTauntonWestburyTrowbridgeBristol ParkwayCardiff CentralOxfordCheltenham SpaBirmingham New Street
January 10, 2025, 21:10:24 *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Forgotten your username or password? - get a reminder
Most recently liked subjects
[132] Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsew...
[116] Westminster Hall debate : Railway services to South West
[71] Ryanair sues 'unruly' passenger over flight diversion
[63] Mick Lynch announces retirement as head of RMT
[46] GWR Advance Purchase sale - January 2025
[30] Birthday trip, Melksham to Penzance - 28th January 2025
 
News: the Great Western Coffee Shop ... keeping you up to date with travel around the South West
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: Work needed on signage/procedures at Swindon Station?  (Read 3517 times)
bobm
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 10168



View Profile
« on: January 20, 2014, 11:49:50 »



At first glance a fairly ordinary shot of a hired in SWT (South West Trains) Class 158 sitting alongside Platform 2 at Swindon.

However look closer...

The platform screen says it is the 15:14 to Westbury
The train says it is for Cheltenham Spa
The time is 14:36

The train is neither the service for Westbury - nor, despite the doors being open, the NEXT train to Cheltenham.  The next train is a through service from London which is about to arrive on Platform 3.  The 158 isn't going to be leaving for Cheltenham for over an hour.

I think some work is needed to ensure the unwary traveller is not caught out when two services to very different destinations share the same platform.
Logged
grahame
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 43080



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2014, 13:27:39 »

The 158 isn't going to be leaving for Cheltenham for over an hour.

A deeply frustrating under utilisation of rolling stock - a side effect of the alternate Swindon and Paddington services along the Golden Valley.  You have two units doing one round trip each every 240 minutes - of which standing time at Swindon (70), Cheltenham Spa (34) and Gloucester take up almost a half. The train is stopped more than it's moving. 

Come IEP (Intercity Express Program / Project.) and all services through to Paddington, something more efficient and useful should be possible.    As the units link in with the Westbury service, I would hope that the 05:19 from Gloucester to Swindon would become the 05:19 Westbury to Swindon, and the 22:04 Swindon to Cheltenham Spa would become the 22:04 Swindon to Salisbury.   The 07:48 arrival into Swindon wouldn't carry on to Cheltenham Spa at 07:54, but rather would run to Salisbury, and the 18:50 to Southampton wouldn't come off the 18:44 arrival from Cheltenham Spa, but rather off an arrival at around 18:15 from Salisbury.

This logical change ensures no major upset to the TransWilts services, it meets the requests for "Early London", "Back late please", and "southbound commute to Melksham / Trowbridge / Westbury" services which are the most major ones not handled by the current service.  And it fills other gaps such as the Melksham to Bristol one between 07:48 and 09:15.

Quote
I think some work is needed to ensure the unwary traveller is not caught out when two services to very different destinations share the same platform.

I have seen positive crew engagement on this front (i.e. the conductor coming through to make sure that people really want the Westbury train).  But could do with clarification.  Platforms 2a and 2b anyone?
Logged

Coffee Shop Admin, Chair of Melksham Rail User Group, TravelWatch SouthWest Board Member
Southern Stag
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 984


View Profile
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2014, 15:47:04 »

Had the 158 just arrived from Cheltenham? In my experience the unit normally gets locked up for it's hour long dwell in the bay which should help prevent people catching the wrong train.
Logged
bobm
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 10168



View Profile
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2014, 15:56:07 »

I didn't see it arrive, but according to Realtraintimes it was 16 minutes before the photo was taken.
Logged
Do you have something you would like to add to this thread, or would you like to raise a new question at the Coffee Shop? Please [register] (it is free) if you have not done so before, or login (at the top of this page) if you already have an account - we would love to read what you have to say!

You can find out more about how this forum works [here] - that will link you to a copy of the forum agreement that you can read before you join, and tell you very much more about how we operate. We are an independent forum, provided and run by customers of Great Western Railway, for customers of Great Western Railway and we welcome railway professionals as members too, in either a personal or official capacity. Views expressed in posts are not necessarily the views of the operators of the forum.

As well as posting messages onto existing threads, and starting new subjects, members can communicate with each other through personal messages if they wish. And once members have made a certain number of posts, they will automatically be admitted to the "frequent posters club", where subjects not-for-public-domain are discussed; anything from the occasional rant to meetups we may be having ...

 
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.2 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
This forum is provided by customers of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western), and the views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules (email link to report). Forum hosted by Well House Consultants

Jump to top of pageJump to Forum Home Page