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« on: April 16, 2013, 15:20:33 » |
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Simple question! Can this be used by 1 Adult and 3 kids or does it have to be 2 and 2?
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2013, 15:43:56 » |
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According to Barry Doe's annual round up of Rovers and Rangers in the new RAIL (Issue 720) it states UP to 2 adults and UP to 2 children for a family ticket (^20), so that would seem to rule out 1+3. But you can buy a child ranger for ^5.25 on its own.
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2013, 16:21:49 » |
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Children can travel on adult tickets. It would seem logical to apply the similar rule as applies to GroupSave. That being that a child can be classed as an adult to take advantage of the offer.
That's a personal opinion mind you. But there's no harm in asking, before purchase, if you can do so.
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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2013, 12:48:49 » |
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Thanks for that, I was thinking along the same lines as BNM but I would like to see it in black and white before I try it! I e-mailed Arriva customer services at the same time as I posted but as yet deafening silence.  |
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2013, 13:07:23 » |
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But be careful - with seat reservations at least, an infant cannot get a seat reservation on an adult ticket - it's very specific that a child ticket is needed: http://www.networkrail.co.uk/browse%20documents/eNRT/Dec12/Commercial_Information.pdfChildren
Seats may be reserved for children, however, for a child under 5 years of age a seat may be reserved only if an appropriate child rail ticket is held. So two adults and an infant may NOT use a "Groupsave 3" if they want to reserve a seat for the infant - they would be required to but two adult tickets and a child ticket. Once the infant is over the age of 5, a groupsave 3 is valid for the groups of three at the price of two adult tickets, and seats can be reserved for all three ... Have I really read that right??? |
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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2013, 13:45:50 » |
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That quote is actually about the fact that children under five who travel for free are not entitled to a seat reservation, however if a ticket it purchased for them (adult or child) they will be able to have a seat reservation  |
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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2013, 14:06:53 » |
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That quote is actually about the fact that children under five who travel for free are not entitled to a seat reservation, however if a ticket it purchased for them (adult or child) they will be able to have a seat reservation Yes, I know that's how you would think it should read - but look at what it actually says: "for a child under 5 years of age a seat may be reserved only if an appropriate child rail ticket is held" - it's very specific, and that's a "child ticket" and not "a ticket that a child may use". |
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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2013, 14:18:36 » |
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Ah, get what you are saying! My apologies, well the same applies to the groupsave offer where children frequently travel on an adult ticket this is not very clear, so I agree.... Is this saying they must be on a child ticket or have they just left out adult ticket to avoid confusing things, it does not specifically say you can not use an adult ticket for a child
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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2013, 15:46:14 » |
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It's not answering about the Cambrian Coast Ranger, but there's a very clear Groupsave statement at http://www.firstcapitalconnect.co.uk/tickets-and-fares/off-peak-tickets/groupsave/If you^re travelling as a small group by rail, GroupSave is the perfect train ticket for you. Available for travel from every station on our network, when two adults buy Off-Peak Day Return, one or two more people travel for free. And it doesn't stop there - as an extra bonus, up to four more children can travel for just ^1 each when accompanying a GroupSave party. |
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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2013, 18:26:45 » |
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You can have a minimum of one physical adult on the groupsave 4 (4 kids traveling on adult tickets would make no difference as I had to explain once ha) however if you had a group of 1 adult and 6 children (5-15) the adult and 3 of the children could travel as adults in the group two of the children could travel for a pound each but the final child would have to be charged normal child rate as you can only have 2 ^1 tickets per actual adult
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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2013, 08:24:31 » |
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Finally received a reply from Arriva's ticketing manager and his answer was no  |
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