I thought it was funny and I thought you would too.  We've been having fun about abbreviations (at least that is what I thought the jocularity was about). 

I'm not getting on very well here at the moment so I will go quiet.

I asked for my other post to be removed as it offended some people.  They got completely and totally wrong what I was writing about but these things are received subjectively and there is nothing the originator can do about that.

Anyway it was very interesting to be a member and very amusing too.  Thank you.

I'll take your judgement brucey, you are in charge of course.  I plead you have misunderstood me but if it helps, perhaps mods will kindly delete my post and your critique.  I do not want to upset anyone, thank you.

Got me wrong  - again.  I knew someone would and tried to phrase my comment carefully.  I knew someone would leap in though, shame isn't it?   

You are correct.  Fear is different to the actual circumstances.  That's precisely what I meant. 

No need to apologise Chris,  I wasn't asking for that, after all.

Very grateful for the work done by you good people, an excellent site with not too many contributors who can't spell.  There is another site, indeed one to which I was introduced here, that is actually painful to read.  It got so bad, due to the numerous errors and howlers, that I started to wonder whether my old-fashioned spelling had been overtaken by 'nu-english' and we oldies had not been informed of what was now being taught in schools and accepted as the new norm.

Worse still, I have actually started to doubt whether words such as 'dependent, say, ought to be 'dependant' and so on.  Public Inquiries are public enquiries.  Those examples are mild ones.  As for 'their, there, they're' mix ups!  Aargh!   Many, many more examples have me scratching my head for a few seconds.   What are they teaching nowadays?  Are they teaching nowadays?

Now, that feels better.   Thanks ChrisfN.    

Julie is a stalwart campaigner.  It has been a pleasure to meet her here and there in the regional councils.

It seems to me that the taking over of Stapleton Road area itself by ethnic minorities has been a mixed outcome.  We have had the saving of a road shopping area that was once vibrant and on a direct axis to Castle St, as your article in Wikipedia, RS, points out, and its replacement with the ethnic shopping.  On the other hand, all the features of deprivation, prostitution, extreme violence and so on, has come with that ethnic 'vibrancy'.  It seems to me that if the area around the station were somehow to become more up market, SRD could once again be a good exchange point for frequent service to TM^▸ (Train Manager, or possibly Ticket Machine, depending on context) plus (whisper tram perhaps) a direct service down the present M32 to the City centre.

At the moment, I feel visiting pax could be reluctant to step outside the station.  Have I got this totally wrong?  I keep reading of some fearful incidents in the BP^» (Beyond Petroleum (Former name - British Petroleum) - home page). 

If Mitie is someone's name, as BNM informed us, why is it spelt with capital letters?  Incidentally, I have to warn that London Underground Limited is best not abbreviated to initials when in the company of the Dutch.

It means to them 'prick' in the sense that one would wish to avoid.  Worse still, it is used as the word c**t when yelling in road rage at another motorist, for example, so a much stronger profanity. 

I start every time I come across it.  Perhaps LU would be better.

We lunched recently at the old Fish Market Thai restaurant / pub on Baldwin St (recommended, excellent real beer too).  They wanted me to take a bus back to TM^▸ (Train Manager, or possibly Ticket Machine, depending on context) (due to the 'old trouble' in the left ankle) but I insisted on walking.  It reminded me of the very short distances involved and why I don't see the need for a new tram to go all around the houses, as it were.

Luftwaffe get a lot of blame for what actually BCC^» (Bristol City Council - about) did in the Victoria St area.  There is however just enough left, such as the Shakespeare pub to give a flavour of what was once in the area.

My years of experience of using Amsterdam trams is such that I can almost hear the ding of the warning as a tram rounds the corner at Bristol Bridge and glides down past St Nicholas into Baldwin St.  Why on earth anyone with an ounce of Bristol blood would want to spend any time, out on a draughty Patchway shopping mall, I really cannot imagine, especially with vast retail opportunities within yards of where I am writing about.  The restored city (still some way to go) is a jewel, simple as that. 

Geographically, not many of your extensions, differ substantially from my more direct routing.

If you think of a tram leaving Plot 6 (oh, by the way, I am assuming you agree with my dual line requirement) my lines go along Victoria Street and turn into Baldwin St until Broad Quay is reached.  Nobody working in the Redcliff(e) St area has very far to walk, either from the station itself (just walk) or from the envisaged Counterslip junction stop.

In Baldwin St, at the Welsh Back stop, both office and tourist pax can access the Old City and St Peter's / Castle Street parkland area.

At the end of Baldwin St, at the Broad Quay stop, tourists will enjoy the walk further along Narrow Quay to the M shed and other central attractions while the many office staff will have but short walks.  My lines cross to St Augustine's Parade (or don't, but I suspect a stop north east of Colston St will suit everyone better towards Xmas Steps) and then forge on past Lewins Mead to the Horsefair, and then, well, then the rest is pretty much the same but I do not favour your other excursion, wandering around Midland Road.  I do favour making the Old Market stop actually in Old Market instead of buried down on the underpass.  I would of course like anything that destroyed the underpass.

If St Philips station is to be revived, I assume you envisaged the Midland Railway to Yate also being revived and the route to Bath as well via Mangotsfield.  I could go for that, but prefer a line that goes straight through the Dings, as the old one did (still does really) and terminates by the Floating Harbour, merely requiring a walk across the bridge to Plot 6.  Unfortunately BCC^» (Bristol City Council - about) has allowed a new office block to be built there on Avon Street so we'll just have to knock that down again.

Something like that anyway.

Well it was new to me but thanks for being so grateful.  

Here goes then (the route where IIRC^▸ (if I recall/remember/read correctly) the Dean Single 'Duke of Connaught' took over from 'City of Truro' and broke the record Bristol to London (I think 99 minutes or thereabouts in 1904) and also a darn useful avoiding line for the Castle Cary route and the Midland route (when there was a Midland route).



The dreadful Spine road is fortunately high above the Marsh line and I am sure reconnection could be achieved.  It will one day.

You get history on GWCS too!

[edit] - modified to fix image formatting - Graham

@FTN,
If you mean returning via Baldwin St, Bristol Bridge, and 'Temple Circus' (that was a new one for an old retrograde like me), then I'm with you.  I guessed that your alternative route was just an 'out and back' to the shops via Old Market.  The latter route has merit but I feel the first has greater appeal as a commuter facility as well.  I would like to see a dual line so that one can access the Centre (Broad Quay junction, etc) in one hit or the shops in one hit, rather than a Great Way Round.  Proposals up to now have been a one way system (e.g. BRT^▸ (Bus Rapid Transit)) which is spoiling the Bristol ship for a ha'poth of tar.

As a final point, now that the concept of an inner ring road race track is no longer required, I see no reason why the inner lane cannot be reserved for trams and buses (and taxis even) .  This works very well in Amsterdam and other cities.

Apols (aplogies) BNM I got body line as another of my first 5 but had not notiiced it was one you were after. 

I hope you at least win the prize now anyway!! 

There is a thread on the UK^▸ (United Kingdom) Rail forums that gives a lot of useful reference documents in it.

http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=83073

Of course one can easily double the (SPM^▸ (St Philip's Marsh (Bristol depot))) Avoiding line.  One can also reconnect the east facing junction at Marsh Pond.  I took a photo of the multiplex cinema area from the ghastly spine road (very brave) and huge grid pylons cross the are between the cinema and the appalling OOT (out of town) shops area (Krispy Kreme etc, you could be in Fort Worth).

I am now going to try to upload it here.

No, it didn't work.  Can BobM or someone, pm me with how to stick a photo in the message please?

Most grateful.

Ah, that explains it!  It was written in full capitals in BNM's post.  Mind you, Google doesn't know capitals......

It probably shews I don't go near Paddington nowadays as I'll bet their name is plastered all over their high viz jackets or somesuch, so frequent pax will doubtless be familiar with them.

- whereas I in my SWT^▸ (South West Trains) cocoon.....

The most important point from BNM's Sleeper review still stands.  The web site is uninformative or misleading and unconnected.