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1  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: First Class Weekend Upgrade on: June 20, 2009, 00:03:03
Isn't there tables in standard class on a Class 166 though? So you might not have to upgrade to first class. I don't think lowering the price is viable really as it would be unfair to lower the HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) price to ^5 and if you had to different fares based on the type of train it would both confuse and annoy people.
2  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: First Class Weekend Upgrade on: June 19, 2009, 23:42:02
What don't you get about the FC (First Class, or Fat Controller, or Football Club, depending on context) upgrade? You pay on the train. So if it is a turbo, you wouldn't pay, as it would be pointless. If it was a HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) you would pay, simple. People won't pay ^15 to upgrade on a turbo, but you will know if you are on an HST, if you are, you will upgrade. Quite simple really.
3  Journey by Journey / Cross Country services / Re: XC Services on: June 19, 2009, 23:39:54
Currently lots of services are double voyagers, extensions are just half of a double voyager going somewhere with the other half going to the usual destination. When they need to divert via the Chiltern route they have low stock demand due to the engineering work so they can run them using voyagers.
4  Journey by Journey / Cross Country services / Re: XC Services on: June 19, 2009, 22:55:34
Two HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) coaching rakes were from EMT» (East Midlands Trains - about), as they were surplus to requirement along with five power cars. The other five power cars were brought out of store and were in a very bad condition. The other two coaching rakes were converted from ex LHCS (Locomotive Hauled Coaching Stock) MK3s.
As for the reason for no extra diagrams, the five HSTs directly replaced five Class 221s that went to Virgin in December.
5  Journey by Journey / London to the Cotswolds / Re: Cotswold Line on: June 19, 2009, 22:53:17
All Malvern services which come from Bristol are a 15x.
6  Journey by Journey / London to the Cotswolds / Re: Cotswold Line on: June 19, 2009, 22:34:27
It is only considered off there patch because they don't go there, there is no reason why they couldn't. They would offer a better level of service than turbos. And orginally Class 158s were destined for the Cotswold Line, but the order got changed to 159s for the London-Exeter route, how different things could have been.
7  Journey by Journey / London to the Cotswolds / Re: Cotswold Line on: June 19, 2009, 22:25:40
Exactly, a couple of better timed expresses with connecting local trains, which are of a higher quality than turbos is more what the line needs.
8  Journey by Journey / London to the Cotswolds / Cotswold Line stopping patterns on: June 19, 2009, 22:08:12
I posted this here as I didn't want to post it in the topic in Weekend First Upgrades. I don't intentionally mean to be controversial as it seems there are a few members on this forum who use the Cotswold Line but I am going to post my views on the line, I want to know what people think about the line and my thoughts. I would like to point out I have never used the line but this is just my analysis.
It is 86.5 miles long from Oxford-Hereford, the line is mainly single line, limiting the timetable. From what I have read usage is quite limited. The service at the moment doesn't really seem to fit with demand in my opinion. The use of HSTs (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) on the line at off-peak times seems a waste to me. I have heard people mention how the service isn't very busy at these times. An HST is very high capacity and for what seems like a predominantly local line it seems a waste using them, when they are designed for high speed service.
The only need I can see for HSTs is for peak services to and from London, with round day trip opportunity's on Saturdays. If a service was operated with three peak time arrivals and three peak time departures from London, the current commuter market could be retained. On Saturdays and Sundays two peak trains could be replaced with day trip opportunity's.
I read that with the redoubling completed an hourly service could be started. Surely then to fill the gaps in peak trains, an hourly FGW (First Great Western) stopping service from Worcester-Oxford would be fine, calling at all stations with good connections at Oxford for fast services to Paddington and Worcester for services to Hereford, the line would probably be best served with 158s or 150s although turbos could be used. If 158s ran an hourly off peak service, customers would still receive a high quality service, with most stations receiving a better service than now. Although through journey times would be slower, through journey opportunity's would be much greater, with a clockface timetable with good connections allowing journeys from any station on the line to any other.
With peak fast services to London formed of HSTs and off peak services calling at all stations but regularly with 158s the line IMO ('in my opinion'), would be better served than now, no need to run half full HSTs up the line at off peak times. With the introduction of cheap advance purchase fares I am sure FGW would win some customers.
9  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Rare Visitor - Lesser Spotted Tornado on: June 19, 2009, 20:32:08
It is operating the Torbay Express for quite a long period over the summer and according to pathfinders website is is very well booked, full on the first run.
10  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: Advice needed: Advance fare change of date on: June 18, 2009, 20:36:45
No, you must keep your old ticket as you will only get an excess fare, which is only valid with your old fare. You will be best popping down to the local station to do it.
11  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: Advice needed: Advance fare change of date on: June 18, 2009, 19:57:58
I don't think you get money back though, if the cost is less you still pay the more expensive fare.
12  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: First Class Weekend Upgrade on: June 18, 2009, 19:57:15
OK, it appears you can't, I swear I was told you could before. Walk on tickets are much less money than other areas though.
^39.50 walk on off peak or ^23 via Newport Advance Purchase. If you booked in advance why would you use Cotswolds from Hereford? It is slower and more expensive.
13  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: First Class Weekend Upgrade on: June 18, 2009, 19:07:03
You can AP from Hereford can't you. And I wouldn't really say your HSS (High Speed Services) is much worse than Cornwall. We are lucky if we get any catering, no at seat in First Class, very slow, stops everywhere.
14  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: the problems with pacers on: June 18, 2009, 18:57:41
FGW (First Great Western) did say they were going to improve the mechanical side of things at the refurb as well as the interiors.
15  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Most Wanted Improvements on: June 18, 2009, 09:31:24
You want to spend all day sitting on voyagers, that is desperation.
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