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All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: Fare changes 16 May 21
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on: May 01, 2021, 14:45:07
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- New GWR▸ only advance tickets between Bristol - Weymouth & Reading - Gatwick
It looks like the upshot of this change on the Reading to Gatwick line is to remove the ability to book through advance fares from the West where the quotas don't match up. Why does the Reading to Gatwick route need advance fares? |
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All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: What counts as PM off peak?
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on: December 20, 2019, 19:58:02
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That's the only fare I have seen (in a press release). They were not in the mayoral decision on price increases, presumably because there were no old fares for them to have increased from. Nor are they on the page about new prices from 2nd January ... presumably because no-one thought of it.
If you ask the OJP▸ , it's doing its usual thing of trying to make sense of the rules as fed to it (Thames Valley Branches ranger included - still). So it does offer CPAY as the right choice off-peak, as singles or both way. So it should as it's cheaper, at £10.60 vs £21.20 or half of £21.30. It spoils the effect slightly by flagging the fare option as "advance" - presumably no-one's given it the right flag word yet.
However, it doesn't offer the peak CPAY as an option, either way, insisting for example on a day single on the return leg if you choose two single tickets. It should, as it is also cheaper at £24.40 vs £25.90 or half of £48.90. And look, yes, that anytime day return has gone down in price!
So as expected the CPAY (single) fares are a little below half the GWR▸ return that's equivalent (sort of). For existing, and zonal, PAYG▸ fares inwards of WDT the same is true except that there are (AFAICS▸ ) no off-peak paper ticket fares. Hence the odd effect of different peak time rules didn't apply there, but does further out.
Presumably - while nothing has been said about altering those TfL» rules for this line, it might be implied by the promise about matching GWR fares, and something of the kind is done on Euston-Watford. But the lack of peak CPAY fares on OJP removes the possibility of using that as way of checking what rules are encoded in the data feeds.
All contactless fares are available on TfL's 'single fare finder. https://tfl.gov.uk/fares/find-fares/tube-and-rail-fares/single-fare-finder?intcmp=54716Type in the stations and then select 2020 fares. |
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All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: What counts as PM off peak?
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on: December 18, 2019, 21:09:36
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My understanding is that all TfL» trains to Reading are charged off-peak in the evening 'peak'
Until TfL start charging their own fares alongside the existing ones. Then, 1600 to 1900 westbound will be charged at peak Oyster▸ / Contactless rates but off peak 'paper' fares. That's what I understand from TfL's words so far - though I've not seen anything clear and specific on this. For example, if TfL's PAYG▸ fares for travel outside their zones match the existing GWR▸ ones, will they be charging more than GWR in the evening peak? Will that count as an anytime fare and allow you to use a fast train? It is, after all, the payment method that sets the fare, not the train - and while GWR have an established system of different trains for off-peak and anytime, TfL don't and have said their fares will be valid on the "adjacent" GWR services (whatever that means). Note that this issue hasn't arisen before, even though GWR operate TfL pricing out to West Drayton, since fast trains don't stop at any of these stations. Also, the paper tickets (sold by GWR until TfL took over the stations) served the same purpose as TfL paper tickets, and were similarly a lot more expensive than peak PAYG and not available as off-peak. None of which applies further out. The TfL single fare finder is clear about how Contactless fares will work from 2 January 2020. https://tfl.gov.uk/fares/find-fares/tube-and-rail-fares/single-fare-finderA blanket peak applies when travelling westward from 1600 to 1900 based on the first place you touch in, so in theory someone touching in on the other side of London at 1850 would pay a peak Contactless single from Gatwick to Twyford even if they pass through Paddington well after 1900. (Obviously the converse is true - someone touching in on the other side of London at 1550 would pay off-peak fares regardless of when they pass through Paddington.) Peak fares don't apply on Contactless to any destination through the evening peak for eastbound journeys originating west of West Drayton to any destination. Hitherto, this easement has only applied for journeys into Zone 1. |
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Journey by Journey / North Downs Line / Poor rail conditions - Monday 18 March
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on: March 18, 2013, 09:42:33
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From Journey Check:
"Following poor rail conditions earlier between Reading and Wokingham all lines have now reopened."
What exactly happened this morning to wreck the service? It seems quite extreme for March. There appear to have been a lot of cancellations and late running yet the 0704 Reading to Redhill appears to have made good time for most of its journey.
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Journey by Journey / North Downs Line / Re: Additional services and stops today
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on: July 29, 2012, 10:05:40
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Definitely needed - it took three trains between 10am and 11am to clear the crowds from Redhill and Reigate on Saturday morning with the first two full and standing from Redhill. Lots of family groups - the weather helping to bring out the crowds.
I hope there is enough capacity today.
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All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Turbo refresh started.
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on: July 29, 2012, 07:46:01
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This is good news and, if I were the manufacturer of an air conditioning system I'd want to prove that it works otherwise it rather defeats the point of changing it.
I am aboard 166209 on the second service out of Gatwick this morning - first working of its day - rear coach air conditioning is working fine yet three windows were open when I boarded, presumably either because of passenger action or because the handles are loose. I hope locking the windows leads to something better.
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Journey by Journey / North Downs Line / Major signalling failure 9 July
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on: July 09, 2012, 07:22:51
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Owing to signalling problems between Guildford and Reigate all lines are blocked.
Impact: Train services running through these stations may be cancelled, delayed by up to 30 mins or revised at short notice. An estimate for the resumption of normal services will be provided as soon as the problem has been fully assessed.
Customer Advice: Currently the line between Guildford and Reigate is closed due to complete loss of signalling. First Great Western are running a shuttle train service between Reading and Guildford and plan to implement a limited shuttle bus service between Guildford and Redhill. Replacement road transport has been ordered and is currently being sourced.
Southern Railway services are conveying passengers between Clapham Junction and Gatwick Airport in both directions until further notice. Arrangements have been made for First Great Western rail tickets to be accepted for these journeys.
Transport for London services are conveying passengers via any reasonable route until further notice. Arrangements have been made for First Great Western rail tickets to be accepted for these journeys.
Given that Reigate box fringes with Guildford box somewhere along the line and there are no trains to Shalford either presumably it is Guildford side that has the problem. Southern trains are running normally to Reigate from Redhill. |
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All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Turbo refresh started.
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on: May 27, 2012, 22:10:35
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This is ridiculous. The whole fleet should have been done years ago. Why can't FGW▸ deliver? It's now the start of hot weather and it would be good for commuters if they weren't crammed into sweltering coaches!
I think the point is that the fleet has been done. Problem is the same passengers as before continue to open windows and break the air conditioning (which is a bit better than it used to be and now makes quite a racket). |
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Journey by Journey / North Downs Line / Re: Strengthening Sunday services
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on: May 27, 2012, 18:00:42
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Three coaches is the maximum length, notably at Dorking Deepdene where the wooden platform had to be extended for Turbos to operate.
Sunday service used to be an hourly semi-fast and a two hourly Redhill stopper. This was reduced to the current service (needing four units instead of six) a number of years ago.
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All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Turbo refresh started.
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on: May 27, 2012, 16:57:05
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Well, the Turbo refresh has now been completed, except for fitment of the new Air Conditioning equipment - that should be completed by January. I will be very interested to see how the new system copes next summer!
166205 forming the 1703 from Reading to Gatwick Airport this afternoon. Almost all the windows open so no change from before. 58105 is the leading carriage - cooling from the ceiling is working but doesn't appear to be counteracting the heating coming from the floor level vents. Cooling working in the other two carriages but doesn't mean the windows are shut. I travelled on 166221 the other morning which had signs of window ties in places but I suspect that passenger action means these don't last long. |
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All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Problems with Reading CIS Monday am 5th march 2012
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on: March 05, 2012, 23:10:00
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The morning North Downs trains simply don't appear to be in the timetable this week.
A look at the National Rail journey planner for Reading to Reigate tomorrow shows the 0634 then the 0804 with the intermediate journey shown via Clapham Junction
On Wednesday the 0634, 0704 and 0734 are currently missing.
The 0634 appears to have been loaded manually this morning as it showed no report on the online live departure boards until Guildford. It was on the westbound CIS▸ at Dorking Deepdene rather than the eastbound one.
Two late shunts recently and, given the 0740 from Reigate to London Bridge appears to be guaranteed an on time departure five minutes late becomes ten. The lack of an overlap on the signals at Reigate prevents a train entering platform 1 from the west whilst another is signalled to leave east from platform 2.
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Journey by Journey / North Downs Line / Re: Unit refuelling
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on: January 03, 2012, 20:09:41
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This time, however, turbos had to go via the Quarry Line to get to Selhurst depot - elongating the time they were unavailable for service. I also suspect that the first two from Wokingham worked from Reading via Basingstoke, Woking and Guildford since they arrived at Wokingham with Reading conductor-guards already aboard.
Although the service looked as if it could be provided with 4 units, there were reports of trips to Selhurst during the day for fuel so some swapping must have occurred and there appeared to be a spare unit at Redhill sidings also.
The first two workings at Wokingham were ECS▸ moves from Guildford where the units were stabled the night before. The guard was taxied from Reading. That makes more sense - at least they ran an earlier first service than at Christmas 2010 when on 29 / 30 December, the first train from Wokingham was the 0713 (cancelled on 30 December 2010) and a coach ran all the way from Reading to Redhill at 0534. |
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