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All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Headcodes and train IDs: ongoing discussion.
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on: March 03, 2013, 18:43:08
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EBrown, like I said it's possible that some timetabling departments call the RSID a headcode, but in my opinion they do so in error. It is simply not correct to state "definitively".
You cannot accept you are wrong can you? Here are the facts: Your opinion is wrong It is definitive. It's in the ATOC» / NR» data feeds - go get them yourself and check, or check with one of the names/company I've provided. I'm well aware of who you are and for whom you work. I don't care. I obviously can't be expected to know as much on the subject as amateur internet armchair experts. Personal attacks are banned on this forum, need I remind you of that, since you so quickly publicly remind me?
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All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Ticket problems
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on: March 03, 2013, 13:29:05
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I still stand by my assertion that the four digits of the RSID are most definitely not the headcode, at least by a unanimous opinion amongst the staff who actually run the trains and therefore ought to know, and that whoever is telling you that is using the term incorrectly; it's possible this is common practice with timetabling but in fact having spent a fair bit of time with train planners I've never heard them use the RSID in any context at all, and they have certainly never referred to the four digits therein as a headcode. Even if timetabling staff are doing this, it's absolutely not technically correct to do so.
I am telling you definitively that is what a headcode is within timetabling. I'm afraid you are wrong in this instance. If you wish to find out more I'd suggest you talk to ATOC» /Network Rail, perhaps Tom Cairns, Peter Higgs or, if you feel brave Rockshore. An example of the RSID being used is retail with Virgin Trains. (Which probably means retail with thetrainline too - though I cannot back up that assertion).
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All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Ticket problems
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on: March 02, 2013, 23:50:42
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Close, but not quite correct.
Yes and no... Firstly, "reporting number" and "headcode" are used interchangeably on the operating railway to refer to the same thing, which is 1A40 That may well be the case in the operating railway, but is not the case within timetabling. In the example above, 1276 is most definitely not the headcode.
I'm afraid in this instance you are incorrect. The headcode forms part of the RSID, made up from the ATOC» operator code, so for the above example, it is GW1276. For the sake of completeness, the ten-character ID is made up as follows:
Characters 1 and 2 Every railway location in the country used as a timing point (stations, junctions, sidings...) is allocated a five-digit number called, for reasons no-one has been able to explain to me, a Stanox▸ . As a very coarse rule of thumb, Stanox numbers count up as you go down the country geopgraphically, NW-SE, with the lowest at Thurso and the highest at Dollands Moor. Characters 1 and 2 of the ten-character ID are the first two digits of the Stanox of the location at which the train originates.
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Characters 9 and 10 The date on which the train originates (with a leading zero if it's a single digit), so the example above refers to a train originating on 24 Feb.
Thanks for the info, certainly never knew that before. Train reporting numbers (aka headcodes [slightly wrongly]) are only used for timetabling and aren't (really) used on the operating railway in their current form. This is why there can be an overlap between different operators.
There I am certainly wrong, I got myself in a pickle it seems. Original post modified suitably.
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Sideshoots - associated subjects / News, Help and Assistance / Re: On identifying individuals (operational staff in particular)
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on: March 02, 2013, 18:19:17
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Well, this is old; but I felt the need to bring it up. You say that identifying operational staff unless we are 100% positive is wrong, but it is happening. Frankly this whole policy is unenforceable, which makes it pointless. There are posts on this website that offer a precise timeframe at a specific station that makes identifying staff trivial to the management, colleagues and other people.
Example time: I posted in this thread. The thread is on delays at Hayes, the original post is dated 28th February. I post: Spoke to the Duty Station Manager (nice guy), he directed me to the ticket office. In context that is freely available, we know this incident is on February 28th 2013, late evening. I missed the last connection. We know I was caught up in the Hayes fire that puts me at Paddington around midnight. There is only one person this Duty Station Manager could be. Originally I named this man, I was asked to remove it, but they've been identified without the name to management, colleagues and some other people, it's easy! You say that the line is hard to draw, but the above (which easily) identifies this person, is, by your rule unacceptable. However it's about as discrete as I or anyone else can be while discussing something. So what do you do?
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Journey by Journey / London to Reading / Re: 28th Feb - late evening delays
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on: March 02, 2013, 13:07:38
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I imagine this all has to be sorted at Paddington by convincing the station master who probably hasn't a clue when the last trains depart from any number of SR‡ terminals?
Not really difficult in anyway. Spoke to the Duty Station Manager (nice guy), he directed me to the ticket office. The ticket office took my tickets, asked to/from stations, if I'd allowed an hour to cross London (to which my response was no, I allowed the time listed on page 44 of the Commercial Information document). Some questions followed about my choice of trains, why I broke my journey at Reading and a few other attempts to get out of paying. Then a taxi was arranged, I was told to wait for that specific one with my name in the window - a short wait followed, and I got a taxi.
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All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Reading Station improvements
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on: March 01, 2013, 17:04:42
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In a useful move the barrier separating ticketed/unticketed traffic across the bridge has been completely removed. It felt rather spacious for the first time in years.
Indeed, the contracting company (I think Carilion) were busy taking it out and filling the holes with concrete when I passed through. I took this at 2245 last night. I had quite a productive time actually, had a chat with Jim Holden, a bunch of (on-board) revenue staff who would be on the midnight shift telling people about the closed footbridge. Then there was a points failure and ^240 taxi, but that's in the past.
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Journey by Journey / London to Reading / Re: 28th Feb - late evening delays
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on: March 01, 2013, 13:30:02
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I got caught up in that, and the points failure at Reading West Junction. Myself and another passenger who missed our last connection were given taxis.
So I can't fault FGWs▸ customer service there.
Just me and my taxi and we managed to get a fair cost up (^243.60), thanks to FGW for paying.
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All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Action after boy partially blinded in Essex rail detonator explosion
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on: February 28, 2013, 01:07:50
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As far as I'm concerned if you actively steal something, then you live with whatever the consequences of that theft is, an article asking for NR» blood because your son either is or associates with thieves gets no sympathy with me. Sure Network Rail should have 80ft high dual electric fences with guard dogs and razor wire, man traps at every access point, CCTV▸ everywhere rather than a fence no higher than my knee but people also just shouldn't trespass and then steal property. I'm clearly in ideal world land aren't I. As a serious point, the explosives should be suitably stored - that's not debatable. Edit, son not soon!
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Journey by Journey / London to the Cotswolds / Re: Fixing the 07.15 from Charlbury
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on: February 25, 2013, 14:16:28
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I was referring to this: 43 minutes it's possible! Which was referring to this: I remeber hearing that Oxford - Paddington was once timetabled for 43 minutes on some of the crack expresses?! Perhaps your sarcasm would be appropriate if, I don't know, you read my post because OXF» -> PAD» is not the same as PAD -> OXF. Bignosemac, you are completely correct. I was more talking hypothetically given the current timetable, but that certainly isn't clear in anyway and I hadn't really considered other paths [other than they can be moved ]!
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