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Journey by Journey / Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South / Re: GWR December 2019 TT
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on: October 13, 2019, 13:02:25
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From a post in the wnxx forum, the 158 status in early December is intended to be:
7 x 3 cars:
158798, 158956-158961
11x 2 cars:
158745, 158747, 158750, 158751,
158760, 158761, 158762, 158763,
158764, 158765, 158766
Paul
Yes, it was changed so that the 7 remaining 3 car sets would be 798, 950-955; which did seem to be the case but I have now seen more information from WNXX▸ suggesting that 952 and 953 were to be reformed imminently and I have just seen 158745 with 150261 on their way down to Penzance so this does seem like it has happened already as 745 was the 2 hybrid coaches from 952 and 953 which also means that 762 and 750 should now be out  Current 158s: 3 Car - 158950-951, 954-959 & 798 2 Car - 158745, 749, 750, 762, 763, 766, 767 & 769 |
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Journey by Journey / Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South / Re: Tarka Line Overcrowding Problem To Be Solved
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on: February 14, 2019, 10:15:21
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Just replying to Phile's message immedately above about 158763 being out on Barnstaple/Exmouth today, again I think that must be pure desperation. I have had it from on high in GWR▸ that they really don't want to be using 158s on Exmouths. I'm not making it up!
I don't know who the person on high is but both 158763 and 158766 were working all day on the Devon Metro on Monday. Yes, 763 stayed on all day with 150233 but 766 had to come on due to 150238 breaking down but was later swapped off for 150232 |
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Journey by Journey / Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South / Re: Tarka Line Overcrowding Problem To Be Solved
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on: February 03, 2019, 21:16:11
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Yes, that is what is going to happen but, Apedlar12, scroll back on this thread to see why it's not going to be very soon.
Yes, thanks more likely December then at this rate... I see you did mention something about changing the train at St Davids so that the Barnstaple section would receive the 158s and then the Exmouth and Paignton end would be 143/150. I guess if this did happen, it may happen before the 158s turn up full time? Yes, if it happens, it would be before the 158s turn up full time. We'll see. Where did you hear the info about this possible idea before they turn up fully? A very good source but it was a couple of months ago and they were speculating. If it did happen, it would be a hassle for passengers and staff to have to change and move forward at St Davids. It would take a few minutes too. Easy to see it not happening, I'm afraid. If that happened, surely there would have to be a lot of platform changes due to other services needing to use P1/P3 at EXD» . As usually the Barnstaple bound services use P3 but if there was to be a 158 waiting for the 150/143 it would have to be stored elsewhere e.g. P2 until the service from EXM arrived? |
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Journey by Journey / Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South / Re: Tarka Line Overcrowding Problem To Be Solved
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on: February 02, 2019, 18:23:06
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Yes, that is what is going to happen but, Apedlar12, scroll back on this thread to see why it's not going to be very soon.
Yes, thanks more likely December then at this rate... I see you did mention something about changing the train at St Davids so that the Barnstaple section would receive the 158s and then the Exmouth and Paignton end would be 143/150. I guess if this did happen, it may happen before the 158s turn up full time? Yes, if it happens, it would be before the 158s turn up full time. We'll see. Where did you hear the info about this possible idea before they turn up fully? |
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Journey by Journey / Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South / Re: Tarka Line Overcrowding Problem To Be Solved
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on: February 02, 2019, 17:51:00
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Yes, that is what is going to happen but, Apedlar12, scroll back on this thread to see why it's not going to be very soon.
Yes, thanks more likely December then at this rate... I see you did mention something about changing the train at St Davids so that the Barnstaple section would receive the 158s and then the Exmouth and Paignton end would be 143/150. I guess if this did happen, it may happen before the 158s turn up full time? |
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Journey by Journey / Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South / Re: Tarka Line Overcrowding Problem To Be Solved
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on: February 02, 2019, 00:45:25
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Hello, I am a frequent user of the Tarka▸ Line as Barnstaple is my local station and yes it does get very overcrowded on particular journeys atm. Do we know when the 158s will be appearing on the Tarka line, or has that yet to be declared? Thanks in advance I'm afraid we still don't know just yet. The full introduction of 158s will be when the improved timetable is introduced, hopefully December, because the 158s can't be used on Exmouth services - the increased time at stations for people to get on/off the trains would simply wreck the timetable. Still not many 158s in Devon & Cornwall yet but when more arrive, I have heard suggestions that some off peak services may go to 158s and run only between Barnstaple and Exeter St Davids, with an immediate change into a 150/143 running the rest of the service to Central and Exmouth. We'll see. If that is the case I suspect that the change of trains will deter some folk from travelling. Better to run the 158s up to Central and reverse at Exmouth Jct. I seem to recall that, (eventually), the Barnstaple trains would extend to Honiton/Axminster whilst the Paignton trains would continue to Exmouth? I take the point but to run up to Central and then reverse at Exmouth Jn is what will happen when the timetable change is made and the improved service introduced. It is not possible to make any change like that beforehand, mainly because of the national clampdown on timetable changes following on from last year's Northern etc problems. Yes, the Exmouths will go to Paignton when the timetable change is made - the Barnstaples going beyond to Honiton/Axminster depends on a loop probably around Whimple. Think it will happen one day, providing Honiton and Cranbrook with a half hourly Exeter service is a big local aspiration, shared by Devon and the rail operators, but obviously these things aren't usually quick. So if the Barnstaple services do end up running to Honiton/Axminster in the future, I assume GWR▸ will run these and not SWR» as I did think that as Honiton/Axminster are in SWR territory, that SWR would have taken over the services to Barnstaple... |
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Journey by Journey / Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South / Re: Tarka Line Overcrowding Problem To Be Solved
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on: February 01, 2019, 16:54:27
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Just replying to Phile's message immedately above about 158763 being out on Barnstaple/Exmouth today, again I think that must be pure desperation. I have had it from on high in GWR▸ that they really don't want to be using 158s on Exmouths. I'm not making it up!
There is STP working today due Engineering work and it came down from Bristol (158 diagram) and terminated Newton Abbot and then amended diagram going to Exeter Central, Barnstaple and Exmouth Sounds like the typical 'to be avoided' scenario, but 'not at all costs!' 158766 worked 0921 Paignton to Exmouth this morning Yes, it was used as an only option when a set of pacers failed earlier on but later was taken off and replaced with 143603 + 150261 as 158766 had to go and do a diagram that runs up to Bristol later in the day. |
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Journey by Journey / Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South / Re: Tarka Line Overcrowding Problem To Be Solved
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on: January 25, 2019, 09:58:23
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158s strike me as a good choice for the Exeter to Barnstaple service, with most passengers being end to end. And provided there is enough capacity on them - i.e. they're arranged into trains with enough carriages.
Me too, Graham. It also helps that there will be extra trains in the timetable from, hopefully, December providing a full hourly service through the day and removing two 90 minute gaps there at the moment. Hello, I am a frequent user of the Tarka▸ Line as Barnstaple is my local station and yes it does get very overcrowded on particular journeys atm. Do we know when the 158s will be appearing on the Tarka line, or has that yet to be declared? Thanks in advance |
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