It was actually Hull Trains.

And in response to the other thing, make new rules if you want to restrict what I say and how I say it. I always though this was to a legal point (IE non slander/not libellous etc) free and easy speech. Clearly not seeing as im now being ganged up on by two 'mods'.

Unfortunately most of the problems on the railway are caused by NeR. So yes they are a failure and yes they don't work. If they did work then the delays would be less.

Lets take a Quote from East Coast (http://www.eastcoast.co.uk/customer-service/delay-repay/)
"Roughly 15% of delays to our services are caused by things we^re responsible for. 67% are caused by factors Network Rail is responsible for and 19% are due to other train operators. "


This will be my last post, good night.

You still have the bridgie carnival?

Have a read of this rather long document in regards to arms and tasers. These are the rules the police are expected to follow. I reckon that the guy who was tazer'ed could technically actually sue the police force under HRA. If anything happens out of it would be a matter for the courts and judicial process.

I would be interested to see which force shot first and the grounds, something im sure the IPCC will find out if the police forces co-operate.

http://www.westmercia.police.uk/assets/_files/documents/jul_13/wmp__1372866447_APP_Armed_Policing_Printable_f.pdf


_{Disclaimer: Im not a lawyer blah blah.}

At first I thought it was BTP^▸ (British Transport Police) that had used a tazer on the suspect, and would have believed that with the gun crazy BTP met rejects, but it appears from the log that it might have been TVP.

Just hope the guy is in safe hands now and receiving the treatment that they need.



Core Incident message: 25

1515: No update

1455: Buses to stand down at 1530 with ticket acceptance still in place and to remain so until ICC^▸ (Integrated Control Centre) advise.

1435: Platform 1 will be closed UFN^▸ (Unpaid Fare Notice, or 'until further notice', depending on context ). Declared a scene of crime. Platforms 2 and 3 will remain open.

1429: Platforms 2 and 3 at Banbury now open. Platform 1 will remain closed until further notice ([Message Sanitised])

1426: UPDATE: 1G40 1345 MYB^▸ (London (Marylebone))-BSW will be the first train through Banbury heading north (now approaching Haddenham and Thame)

1424: 1R42 1415 MYB-BMO will be the first train to run through Banbury as booked. It is hoped that a full service shall resume from between 1500-1530 although with delay on most services and possible part/full capes.

1415: 1H33 0809 KID-MYB has moved through the section on the UP and has now passed Banbury after passengers have alighted at Banbury. More when known.

1405: Suspect is now off the signal at Banbury and recieving treatment at Banbury on platform 2. More info when known.

1340: No further update from site. 1H33 is to procede forward to Banbury goods loop to detrain. All lines remain blocked:
Road Transport:
8 coaches currently shuttling BCS-BAN-LMS^▸ (London Midland Scottish - 1923 to 1948). Attempting to source more. Additional coaches being directed towards BCS as station have reported approx 250 passengers on site.

1255: Here follows service plan UFN:
All MYB- BAN & BCS services and return workings to be cancelled. 2TPH (XX15 and XX45) to run MYB-BCS and return, calling HWY, PRR^▸ (Princes Risborough) & HDM). XX12, XX21, XX25, XX42, XX52 services to run as booked from MYB.
2TPH BMO-LMS, XX15 & XX55 alongside the booked 2L/2R services. Snow Hill will not be served.

1235: 70 seater coach enroute to BAN tramway. ETA 10mins.

1225: NO further updates from site. Services continue to spin LMS and BCS. Road transport status: 6 X coaches shuttling LMS-BCS via BAN along with several 16 seaters. Attempting to source more, however, most companies need buses back on depot circa 1400 for school runs so currently proving difficult.

1210: No further updates from site. Permission has now been granted to move stranded trains forward to BAN to detrain. Line will remain blocked.

1140: No further updates from site. Tentative plans being made to detrain passengers from 1R15, which has been standing just south of BAN. Additional buses now being sourced to BCS, ETA 10mins. FGW^▸ (First Great Western) have 2 buses running BAN-OXF^» (Oxford - next trains), ETA 15mins.

1120: This has now been declared a critical incident; male has lost a significant amount of blood. Services continue to spin at LMS and BCS.

1105: Local police have advised that male is very unresponsive to communication and are not confident of a speedy resolution.
Road transport LMS: 2 X 16 seaters ETA 5mins & 2 coaches ETA 1200. BCS 2 x COaches ETA 5mins.

1050: No further updates from site. Services at a stand on the up: 1O08 (XC^▸ (Cross Country Trains (franchise))), 1H35 and 1H37 (CR). At a stand on the down: 1R15 (CR) and 1M30 (XC). 1G17 is currently setting back to KGS to detrain.

1040: No further updates from site. Services presently being turned at BCS (from the south) and LMS (from the north).

1020: Negotiator onsite. Male continues to self harm. Attempting to source road transport, however, Banbury station has been cordened off by police.

1005: Banbury station now partially cordened off. At present 1R15 and 1G17 standing on the down, 1H35 and 1H37 standing on the up.

0955: Thames Valley Police on site. Male is armed with a knife and is asking for a negotiator.

0945: A suicidal male has been sighted atop signal post BN4 at Banbury. All lines blocked. 1R15 stands outside the station on the down. More info when known.

A Certain FG Open Access TOC^▸ (Train Operating Company) did put on their JCheck feed the following message, when Notwork Fails own testing train took the overheads down and then the fatality at Stevenage, which I think was not supposed to go public.

"Customers are authorised to take onward road transport to their destinations".

Something called padding, think they use that in the railway as well ? ? ?  :-p

And [play message 101] "TA DAH ANOTHER ONTIME RYANAIR FLIGHT. LAST YEAR WE WERE THE MOST..........." the annoying touch down message.

Ive done a few european sleepers many years ago.

Most of the Night Zug and did the Elipsos train before that got pulled. Too be honest the loadings were not that great.

How Dare you. The DaFT^» (Department for Transport - critical sounding abbreviation I discourage - about) know everything about the railway........

Sarcasm over.

Hmm ^400 fine does seem slightly higher then normal. He must have previous or really narked off the magistrate that day.


Prosecution costs of ^160 is a tad on the low side when you consider all the court fees and stuff.

I always thought it was anything over 30-50miles depending on the flow owner.

Prob not the place but.

In Holy Grail style, ill bite you to death said Black Knight Jenkins to the Woman.

Print@Home tickets have the Aztec Code on them, this includes the First Group Staff ^5 ^6 Day Tickets.

The PAD^» (Paddington (London) - next trains)-OXF^» (Oxford - next trains) ^4.40 Advance singles tend to be print@home jobbies and these contain Aztec codes.

HC and HX use Aztec codes and actually have scanners to scan them.
EC use them and the guards have an extra device to carry around which scans the code.

I also understand that some Foreign undertakings also use them on printed tickets, DB^» (Deutsche Bahn - German State Railway - about), SNCF^▸ (Societe Nationale des Chemins de fer Francais - French National Railways) and NMBS.

I think the barcodes are issued by EC for all destinations. Ive seen them all the way down here in Wales.

HC aka Heathrow Connect. If you go via the BAA/HAL owned track between Hayes & Harlington and Heathrow CTA^▸ (Compulsory Ticket Area) its not zone 6.